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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I get it. Fuck subscription based licences.

But I remember that you could keep the last version you subscribed to after subscription ended, which is way better (and the way Adobe products used to work).

Am I wrong? Or did they change that?

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Jet brains does still let you keep the last used version when you unsubscribe

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought they let you use the version you used when you started subscribing, not then you ended the subscription? This was something a lot of people were upset about. That if you subscribe for a year and stop, you end up with a year old version.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license

You're both half right.

You get the version at the time of your subscription (plus bugfixes). Then every time a version has been out for 12 months while you've been paying you get that version perpetually (plus bugfixes).

So it's 1.0 when you subscribe, you get that perpetually.

It's 1.0.1 in your third month, you get that perpetually.

It's 1.1 in your fifth month. You get that perpetually after 17 months.

It's 1.2 in your eighth month. You get that perpetually after 20 months.

You unsubscibe at 19 months but retain a perpetual version licence.

  • You started with 1.0
  • You ended with 1.2
  • You have to roll back from 1.2 to 1.1

Previous version was incorrect. This is why I just distribute our licenses, not procure them!

[–] elvith@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If paying on a monthly basis, as soon as you pay for 12 consecutive months, you will receive this perpetual fallback license providing you with access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for.

So, in your example, you unsubscribe in month 15. This means, you paid 14 months so you get to retain the version from month three (which is 12 full paid months to 14). This means a downgrade to 1.0.x and not to 1.2.x

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Sorry, yes. I'll ammend

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

Thank you, good explanation. I can see why people get confused since the outcome depends on the subscription length then.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I'm glad they picked something simple and obvious 😌

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Oh, I don't know which way around it is then actually. I've not subscribed before, but a colleague does so it's possible I've misheard or misinterpreted what he said

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dunno, I've never touched an Adobe subscription because I've heard they're like getting out of gym memberships to quit. 😬

[–] sinokon@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Really difficult indeed, subscribed to the student sub a while ago, was cheap compared to normal prices for the whole suite. However getting out of the deal was forcing me to pay up the rest of the yearly subscription price, yo could get around this by downgrading the subscription to photoshop only and then it would let you cancel without any additional payments. Such a shitty dark pattern to do but it’s Adobe so it’s expected 🤷

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

The base version of IntelliJ is FOSS, and they kinda offer perpetual licenses for their paid applications. If you subscribe for an entire year, you get a perpetual fallback license. It's just a license for an older version of the software, but you get to keep it forever. https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Join us now and share the software, you'll be free hackers, you'll be free~🎵🎵🎵

I think what people like is that IntelliJ and PyCharm have FOSS community editions.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And that I can just create new trial accounts every month.

[–] elvith@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Other people's password be like

JetBrains032024
JetBrains042025
Jetbrains052024
...

My JetBrains accounts be like

JetBrains032024@example.com
JetBrains042024@example.com
JetBrains052024@example.com
...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

donate to your nearest open source project instead

[–] schnapspraline@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

BS comparison

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

name a single jetbrains product that isn't a worse experience than using vscode plus LSP extensions. i'll wait

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Dotmemory, dotpeek, ryder, .. :)
I have yet to get my hands on any good memory profiler and il decompiler in vs/vscode that didnt suck.
Ilspy/dnspy for il stuff, dotmemory is my go to for profiling.
Source : im a .net/c# desktop developer