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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 3 days ago (2 children)

On Jan 20, ACLU will be declared a terrorist organization

Also, probably EFF, Internet Archive, Non-Partisan and Democratic organizations sending mail telling people to vote, etc.

What a shitshow.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 67 points 3 days ago

Also any organisations supporting birth control, trans people, and so on.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ive been wtfing for a while, but somehow I always find more fucks to give about this shit

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

so does that mean the heritage foundation can be labelled as a terrorist group?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 98 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

A terrorist organization under this bill is anyone that is a threat to Trump's authoritarian agenda.

With Harris in office it would have been anybody that protests for Palestinian rights, which also fucking sucks by the way.

It's a direct attack on the first amendment.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess the downvoters didn't bother to (or can't) read the article:

In the bill’s original iteration, it was popular among both Republicans and Democrats, who saw it as an appealing way to police Palestinian rights organizations after protests last year. An earlier version, in April, passed the House easily, with only 11 votes against the bill.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i doubt they would have pushed this through if Harris was about to be president.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

The bill was unable to meet the two-thirds majority vote it needed to make it through the House last week. But, today, with only a simple majority vote required, the legislation passed the House in a 219–184 vote. This time, it garnered far less Democratic support than it had only days ago.

In the bill’s original iteration, it was popular among both Republicans and Democrats, who saw it as an appealing way to police Palestinian rights organizations after protests last year. An earlier version, in April, passed the House easily, with only 11 votes against the bill. It didn’t make it through the Senate and was reintroduced in the House this fall.

While the focus might have originally been to silence Pro-palestinian voices and non-profits, this affects all NGOs. That means, without any evidence whatsoever, the administration can declare any NGO a 'supporter of terrorism' and revote their tax-exempt states, completely crippling the NGO's funding if not the entire NGO. This is disastrous. Not only for pro-palestinian NGOs rightfully advocating against genocide, but every NGO that fights for human rights.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They still wanted to push it through. Squashing non-profits that speak for the rights of Palestinians unfortunately is a bipartisan issue.

The DNC also primaried some vocal supporters of Palestinian rights. And it's likely no coincidence that the strategist that worked on Harris's campaign also works for the military industrial complex. Or that Biden is burning political capital going after Sanders for trying to put an end to military aid to Israel.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now we can legally recognize "Christian" churches as the terrorist organizations they are.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, its 100% going to be liberal nonprofits that advocate and help people.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

downloading intensifies

I'm building an arc.

16TB. I suggest you do the same. Fill it up.

Knowledge, books, truth. Keep it safe.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This time it's Ark.

Otherwise, I'm with you. Anything you want, best to have it local.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

fast forward 20000 years and a group of cyborg men are worshipping the remains of your corroded WD Red on a pedestal

Oh machine God, please re-awaken and expose to us your eternal wisdom

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So now's the time for Democrats to use the filibuster they were so devoted to keeping.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but just do it the Charlie Kelly way. Just say "FILIBUSTER" over and over and over.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"When [Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.)] was first voting against the bill, most Democrats disagreed with her. Since then, they have become concerned that a law they would have considered reasonable under a Harris administration would be dangerously applied under Trump."

No shit. People like Tlaib must be frustrated (having voted against this bill three times)

Garbage argument anyway since they must know that even had Harris won, the next president might abuse it. To leave it an open vulnerability because 'our guy won't abuse it' is asking for trouble.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Damn. A few days ago I wrote a comment about how crack down and laws against anti genocide protests and groups under Democrat will come back to against other groups under trump. "Today the come after the anti genocide, tomorrow they come after you" I never expected to be this soon.

It is never about protecting people, it is always about controlling people.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This time, 183 Democrats and one Republican voted against the bill, and only 15 Democrats voted for it—down from 52 last week. Since then, there’s been a full-court-press civil society campaign to take down H.R. 9495. Nearly 300 organizations—including the ACLU, the Sierra Club, the AFL-CIO, Planned Parenthood, and the NAACP—have signed a letter pointing out that Trump is likely to use this bill to silence any of his enemies, not just Palestinians and their supporters. As Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) pointed out, that could also include nonprofit news outlets.

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) is one of the dozens of Democrats who flipped their vote on the bill since Trump’s election. (Go yell at Colin Allred, Henry Cuellar, and Vicente Gonzalaz instead)

He gave a personal example of why. One of the organizations whose nonprofit status Trump wants to terminate, Doggett said, “has protested one of my speeches.”

God dammit, Texas.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

I agree the wording in the article is weird, but you have it backwards. Doggett (D-Texas) was an example of a Democrat who flipped their vote to oppose the bill. His quote goes on to say "America is stronger when we protect dissent in all its forms".

The rest of Texas, though...

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 days ago

I see the legal groundwork for the first concentration camp is here

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The broader question I see here is "Why are Democrats supporting Trumps agenda?"

We're in a position where we're a few weeks out from the total collapse of the US political system as we know it and 15 Democrats still think its appropriate to cross the aisle.

We might be able to see this as a signal of things to come. Perhaps, expect Trump to get his agenda passed with the support of the Democrats.

I set up a survey for lemmy users here:

Given the opportunity, do you think Biden would veto bill HR 9495?

I'm interested if the community thinks this Biden would veto this bill or not.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Your poll ran for a single hour and has a single vote in it.

What was this a Republican polling site or something?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

No it's some new voting site a lemming made and just released yesterday.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

You know, when they inevitably get this passed Senate next year, maybe the silver lining is so many people are going to be part of a "terrorist organization" they might actually do something radical.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, after all.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The handmaids tale is in the same category of future predictor books as 1984.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree, but people should also read Octavia Butler's two books, The Parable of the Sower and The Parable of the Talents, about how she saw the future of America going before her death in 2006.

The second book, I am not kidding, involves a populist presidential candidate running on a "Make America Great Again" platform.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

will check out. thanks

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 11 points 3 days ago
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Hot take: They're trying to force all nonprofit activity onto crypto. You can only donate if it makes their donors richer.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Schumer will send this bill to Never Neverland. They will have to do it again next Congress.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I sure hope you're right considering some Dems in the house voted for it.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Oath Keepers?