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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Why is Barclay disabled. Unless being a perv is a disability.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also what disabilities do Julian and Tilly have?

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

He appears to be on the spectrum

Holodeck addiction is a disability I guess

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is under the assumption that every single being being born anywhere is being gene tested and born at a hospital which is statistically impossible.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I see names being mentioned and It’s problematic when someone assumes disabilities by armchair diagnosing characters with a disability and then defend it as if it were true.

“I assume normies would find this character annoying as they have some quirky, slight misunderstandings of personal boundaries so I’m going to attribute them with ‘being on the spectrum’”

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That isn't happening though.

Geordi is blind, Julian was genetically engineered to remove a learning disability and Tilly is stated as having special needs while being aggressively autistically coded.

The only one that doesn't have something directly pointing towards it is Barclay but that man is the textbook definition of Aspergers Syndrome and people have been saying it for decades. It's not like his issues are minor either. They're a significant core component of the character.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Just FYI, "Asperger's Syndrome" is no longer used as a medical term and some ND people do not care for it being used at all because it divides people on the autism spectrum unnecessarily, especially since there's no real separation in terms of symptoms. Everything falls under "autism spectrum disorder" (ASD) now.

https://www.healthline.com/health/autism/why-is-the-term-aspergers-no-longer-used#the-removal-of-aspergers

(I realize you didn't mean to offend, just letting you know.)

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

Very few characters are ever seen wearing glasses.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'm not a Trekkie, but I see this mentality a lot in fantasy settings. "Why would there be wheel chair users when a simple healing spell would cure it?" 🙄

Edit: in case it's confusing, I meant the idea that disabilities shouldn't exist in fantasy because of magic is annoying.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Why the fuck is Julian mentioned here along with the actually differently abled characters? He was genetically enhanced as a youth because his parents thought he was a little slow.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well... you just sort of answered why.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just feel like, at best, he's more of an example of the other camp. He didn't have anything wrong with him, his parents just wanted him to be more.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In Bashir's own words:

"Small for my age, a bit awkward physically, not very bright. In the first grade, while the other children were learning how to read and write and use the computer, I was still trying to tell a dog from a cat, a tree from a house. I didn't really understand what was happening. I knew that I wasn't doing as well as my classmates. There were so many concepts that they took for granted that I couldn't begin to master and I didn't know why. All I knew was that I was a great disappointment to my parents."

When he talks to his parents about it they talk about how they saw him "fallling farther behind each day" and that's why they did the treatments. They loved him and did want him to be more, but the cause was quite clearly a learning or mental disability of some variety. The treatments started at 7 years old and first grade would have been at 5 or 6. If you're not able to tell a tree from a house at 5 or 6 then there's something far more wrong than simply being slow.

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