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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren't coming for their biggest target first. They're coming for their political opposition, the "abortionists", the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill...

RFK Jr.:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,"

Re-education camps, huh.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Nazism 2: The Brainworm Boogaloo

Genuinely going to be interesting to see how these fuckwads manage anything, not just this fascism bullshit. Like honestly, at least most of the higher ranked Nazi officials were pretty intelligent (albeit evil.)

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

reparented

What?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Oh yes, just "the bad hombres". /s

So, the leopards are coming for the faces, huh? Who would've guessed?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago

Seeing a lot of voting blocks which apparently were clueless as to what they were voting for. The leopards won't care.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

Bender laugh.jxl

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Leopards like all kinds of faces.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The article left me confused.

How does one pay income tax and file taxes while undocumented? Wouldn't you need a social security number, and hence be documented?

Could I create an imaginary person to file taxes for?

[–] lilcs420@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone can go to a ss office and get a tax id for free. It acts as a ss#

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I see.

Seems like an easy thing to fix no matter which direction you take.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They will be only for "criminals"... And then he'll classify anyone with skin darker than a certain tone as an "illegal" committing crime by living in this country, then they'll go on to trans people, then gay people, then "anteefahs!" And so on.. there's a whole poem about it and everything.

This idea that "criminal" is some kind of basic aspect of someone's being rather than being a status wholly controlled by the government, who can impose or remove it at will, is mind-boggling. And also probably explains a lot of how conservatives keep finding themselves in the jaws of the leopard.

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 218 points 1 week ago

Smokers hope cancer reaches only 'bad people'

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 140 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone that thinks that it's going to be only 'criminals' that get deported forget that crossing the border without documentation is a crime. Yeah, it's a misdemeanor, but it's still a crime, and the Trump administration is still going to deport them when they can.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 88 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Adjudicating whether or not someone is guilty of a crime, or in the US illegally, requires a trial. Doing that for millions of people all of a sudden within a system that’s already backed up by more than a year is completely impossible.

In other words, they are absolutely talking about deporting innocent people of the wrong ethnicity without any attempt at due process, and anyone who thinks different is living in a dream world. And then, once they’re done with that batch, they plan to move on to other classes of undesirables.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

requires a trial.

Not for people that are undocumented. People that are not in the us legally get hearings, but that's policy rather than law, IIRC. Due process gets a little weird here, because the process in question isn't a matter of law or the constitution.

Regardless - it's not going to go well for anyone that thinks that he doesn't mean them.

The denaturalization concept--stripping naturalized citizens of citizenship--is fa, far scarier than deportation. Once you can strip citizenship from a naturalized citizen, and once you've eliminated birthright citizenship, you've got a roadmap for stripping citizenship from anyone.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 91 points 1 week ago (3 children)

you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 49 points 1 week ago (7 children)

i think there's so much discourse about this since Latin men voted, on the whole, for trump. there is a non zero number of people who, if trump implements his border control plan, voted for their own deportation

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

also, white people dont own a monopoly on racism. some of the most racist people i know are also 'legal' immigrants of a minority population.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

All those Muslim folks who voted for Trump to "punish" Harris are in for a rude awakening. This isn't only about Hispanics.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm worried they're going to start raiding schools and daycares as well in order to force parents to turn themselves in or just to be malicious. A lot of children are going to be separated from their parents.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They made "migrating" a crime, so, yeah, leopards...face...

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (30 children)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

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[–] islands@lemmy.cafe 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can anyone listen to Trump's racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking "he doesn't mean me"? He absolutely means you. There's about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What part of "mass deportations" do people not understand? Trump told us what he's going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he's going to do. They're going to do it.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (7 children)

There's only 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states. The Trump Administration has pledged to deport 20 million. Which means they are going to be expelling American citizens from their home as well. It's not just going to be criminals. It's going to be anyone whose skin tone they don't like.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (6 children)

To trump, every immigrant is a criminal.

Saying "the legal ones are welcome" is a smokescreen.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago

"The legal ones are welcome" is the "there will be exceptions for rape and incest" of anti-immigration rhetoric. It was always a lie meant to placate those with a few remaining shreds of a conscience.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Nah he is telling the truth, he will simply change the law to make most immigrants illegal.

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