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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] rainynight65 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

He spent all 4 years totaling around 3 trillion in Afghanistan, to accomplish nothing.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 4 hours ago

Trump started plenty of wars https://youtu.be/QQYFVEka3fA

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

[–] Saleh 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well now that the election is lost, the Democrats could make true on their claim they would seriously end this, but had to wait until after the election...

I doubt they will, because every of their action has shown to be equally strong genocide supporters. But we should see the next days, as Israel still doesnt let anywhere close to 350 Trucks into Gaza, leave alone any into the north of Gaza. The ultimatum is running out.

Also as weapons deliverys to Israel have been and are illegal anyways under US law, now would be a great chance to get every Republican and Democrat who voted for them or approved them as part of the administration into jail and in front of a court.

Oh wait, they wont because breaking the law, which unsurprisingly helped the convicted felon win, was worth it, so genocide could be further supportet.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like the Republican house thwarted all of Biden's efforts either

[–] Saleh 1 points 4 hours ago

That is true. Which is why it doesn't matter if the bombs given to Israel are red or blue.

However now Democrats lost over genocide. Now AIPAC cannot play both parties anymore by making blind support for Israel the deciding factor. The Democrats lost because of Israel. Now they need to purge the Zionists and rebrand as the non genocide party, if they want to win moving on. This locks AIPAC in as being only in support of the Republicans, which limits their political influence.

If it wasn't for Harris/Biden loss, there was no hope for Palestinians, or any other people in West Asia in regards to US policy. Now there is a chance that one side of US policy will change.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Fucking DUH, god damn.

[–] silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry there were no wars under Trump last time and there won't be this time it's that simple 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I genuinely don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not.

Yes, despite the smiley-spam.

[–] HKPiax@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Trump’s voters are so unhinged that it has become almost impossible to distinguish sarcasm from their real thoughts. Poe’s law n shit

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

i take comfort in knowing that most of the time it’s going to be sarcasm, since (in my experience) there are very few trump supporters on lemmy. and the few trump supporters that i’ve seen don’t tend to last.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 43 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, Trump will definitly ensure that the suffering of Palestenian people ends quickly

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they'll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 hours ago

The smugness of the average democrat at seeing Palestine being flattened by Democrat-funded bombs is a true sight to behold. Your inhumanity will be remembered.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't you know trump will stop the genocide....by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map... can't have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

Check mate libruls

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

on the bright side we won't hear anything about it anymore /s

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 180 points 17 hours ago (57 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] LienNoir@lemmy.world -1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Yep the Dems are accountable for nothing, but peaple who refused to vote for genociders are accountable for Trump's action sure. Keep blindly following your party.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Maybe there's plenty of accountability to go around and you deserve some too.

Also, please tell me which party is my party. I would like to know which political party I am registered with, please. With evidence, of course. Unless you're trolling a moderator.

[–] LienNoir@lemmy.world 2 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

I am accountable for what ? For what the new president might do (when i clearly didn't vote for him). You re litteraly criticising peaple for not voting Harris, stop the Whataboutisme. "Unless you’re trolling a moderator" LOL

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

You re litteraly criticising peaple for not voting Harris

Exactly.

Now you have one more chance to tell me what political party I am registered with and I expect evidence. Trolling is not allowed here.

The alternative is to admit you don't actually know and just assumed I was a member of the Democratic party. Then you were just being uncivil, but I will let that go.

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 60 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Trump voters: "Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first".

Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

Trump voters: Pikachu face

Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 0 points 57 minutes ago

Nothing yet happened but you're already crying like it did.

Believe it or not, he'll probably cut subsidies to Israel, get a peace deal in Ukraine (yeah, by giving his buddy Putin parts of the country), and he surely won't start any war with iran.

And all you'll be able to do is continue fuming on the internet while being factually wrong. And in the end it won't be a surprise to really anyone but you that your party will lose electrons over and over.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 8 points 10 hours ago

Guess were all in on genocides rather than pretending were not enabling it and hoping it sorts itself out, sorry.

I can't convince ~74,000,000 morons to change their mind. ¯\(ツ)

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