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submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by Quexotic@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org
 

I feel like this is probably pretty effective. I feel like it should be a thing.

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[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 1 points 24 minutes ago

Me, a lesbian: Aktivsm

[–] InevitableList@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago

It's interesting that the response to men going their own way (MGTOW) is indifference or at most pity whilst WGTOW are met with hostility.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The problem, if you look at the data, is lots of women voted for Trump too.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

White women specifically. I'm sure they're uneducated also

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if this results in more kids being raised in brainwashy conservative families.

[–] femtech@midwest.social 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not more kids by total but more kids by %. But it won't be enough to keep the old people and economy in its current state alive.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is a future dominated by kids raised by these families one worth going through all this effort for?

As I mentioned in another comment, one of the conservatives I know put their kid in a captain America outfit yesterday cuz he was "defending America".

[–] femtech@midwest.social 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If this was wide spread it wouldn't matter, the 1% would not have anyone to stand on.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 7 hours ago

So this is more scorched earth and punitive than it is trying to fix things?

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 16 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, and men who support women's right. Need to support this as well.

Seriously, look at recent events in Texas. Having sex with women while republicans are in power. It is a potential death sentence for those women.

Unless you can groove beyond doubt, one off you is infertile. And honestly, given the way some republicans are. Only trust your own eyes on the microscope when checking. Because forcing doctors to lie to women is far from beyond some of these people.

Honestly, leaving the US for a more liberal nation is the only safe option the way things are looking.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago

It won't matter when abortion is illegal and rape goes unpunished.

The future is hell for everyone.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, they're just going to go full Roman Empire and take twink concubines, apparently.

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 12 points 14 hours ago

Matt Gaetz has entered the chat

[–] xor@infosec.pub 35 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

so, because punishing all women is bad, it’s a good idea to punish all men?
here’s an alternative: don’t fuck republicans… they’re the ones trying to control women.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not punishing anyone as much as asserting our bodily autonomy, but go off. Targeting Republicans means no pressure is applied to anyone else to change society. Not every woman will participate in the strike. The effects of it have to be wide reaching.

It's a widespread denial of the institutions behind gender relationships. Saying that the system is dangerous for women and refusing to participate in it.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 7 points 11 hours ago

but go off.

oh look, zero chance that you’re actually trying to have a conversation… yaaay internet.

Not every woman will participate in the strike.

almost none will, but if they did, it’s not going to be republican women….

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I give it about 6 months of this strategy before conservative men will be paid to pretend to be leftists in order to impregnate women, so I understand the "don't fuck any man" strategy.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

They already do that btw

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Given that the new agenda is to end birth control, no-fault divorce and spousal rape laws, a lot of women are about to have no say past the first one. Don't get married, and if you're in a bad marriage try to get out ASAP.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 38 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this is probably pretty effective. I feel like it should be a thing.

It isn't. They will simply import women from other countries. And this election alone proves the fact that all women are not a monolithic group. You're not going to get a majority to follow this trend.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 hours ago

Well, Trump's tarrifs should make it cost ineffective to import women.

/s (sort of)

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It seems to have had the desired effect elsewhere. Also I'm not sure if it's required for women to be a monolithic group. This assumption is based on the gender divide in the current election. Regardless, Trump's policies are going to have a natural impact and decreasing birth rate just due to financial strain so if there are multiple factors that are impacting the numbers that's all the better right?

https://www.iar-gwu.org/blog/iar-web/south-koreas-4b

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 17 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

Korea IS A monolith when it comes to a number of factors. Culturally Korea is the antithesis of "diverse".

My point is that America is nothing similar to Korea culturally to pull this off.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Well, I'm pretty sure you're right about South Korea. I don't see that as a reason not to try though. I can only hope that you're wrong about America. I appreciate the insight.

E: Even if it isn't super effective, every little bit helps.

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[–] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 16 hours ago

Given how reactionary the average Gen Z guys are, this is less of a protest and more of a self-preservation tactic.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

This just makes “incels”, who are known to be too intellectually inadequate to get a clue. I wouldn’t put it past them to vote away your right to say no first.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 10 points 12 hours ago

Once the birth rate drops enough, it won't matter how many incels there are, the economy crashes without kids.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 25 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Because young men will have a much easier time getting laid when abortion is restricted nationwide and contraceptives are harder to get 🙄 talk about shooting yourself in the dick

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 14 hours ago

I'm scared they gonna a pull some Bible crap and force women to marry rapists.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I started this in 2016 in the lead up to the election. Got sterilized in 2022 after the Dobbs decision leaked. Too many guys are secret misogynists at best, and pro rape/anti-abortion at worst. The lectures I had to do to convince my ex that rape is rape, whether you fight off the perp or not.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Same boat, but executed the sterilization much earlier (2014 or so when they were starting to really push the TRAPP laws). Saw the writing on the wall and want nothing to do with any of it.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 7 points 15 hours ago

I can't imagine having to make that decision.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

White women voted for Trump so this is never going to work

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not all of em! According to the exit poll data, 44% of women voted for Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, 54% voted for Harris. I think that's enough to make a difference. 🤷

https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/2024-voter-turnout-election-demographics-trump-harris/3762138/

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

So what happens when we have a generation of kids almost entirely raised by the 44% of women who voted for Trump into brainwashy conservative families? I already see enough 5 year olds attending trump boat parades and the such to give me concern. A conservative I know dressed their kid up as Capt America yesterday because they were "defending America" after the election.

Seems like it'd suck if an entire generation was raised in these families.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So it'd hasten Idiocracy? Kinda a IBDYBD problem I suppose.

Seriously though, I think the key would be to drive enough engagement with this so that this in combination with the obvious financial hardships that everyone's facing completely annihilates the birth rate.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I googled IBDYBD and the best I got was irritable bowel disease, lmao. I have no clue what that means, can you fill me in?

I don't see the trump voters going for this at all is the problem.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It was a joke. By the time that's a problem I'll be dead you'll be dead. IBDYBD

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 1 points 8 hours ago

You're welcome internet stranger.

[–] toxicbubble420@beehaw.org 7 points 16 hours ago (6 children)
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