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In light of the recent election, it’s clear that the Democratic Party needs a significant leftward shift to better address the needs and concerns of the American people. The party’s centrist approach is increasingly out of touch, limiting its ability to appeal to a broader base and especially to young voters, who are looking for bold and transformative policies. The fact that young men became a substantial part of the conservative voting bloc should be a wake-up call—it’s essential that the Democratic Party broadens its appeal by offering real solutions that resonate with this demographic.

Furthermore, one major missed opportunity was the decision to forgo primaries, which could have brought new energy and ideas to the ticket. Joe Biden’s choice to run for a second term, despite earlier implications of a one-term presidency, may have ultimately contributed to the loss by undermining trust in his promises. Had the party explored alternative candidates in a primary process, the outcome could have been vastly different. It is now imperative for the Working Families Party and the Progressive Caucus to push for a stronger, unapologetically progressive agenda within the Democratic Party. The time for centrist compromises has passed, as evidenced by setbacks dating back to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, the persistently low approval ratings for Biden since 2022, and Kamala Harris’s recent campaign, which left many progressives feeling alienated. To regain momentum and genuinely connect with the electorate, a clear departure from moderate politics is essential.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's time the democrats have a primary where the winner isn't preordained. Even with Obama, Hillary was "preordained" the winner in 2008, only to have everyone be surprised that an electable candidate got nominated. Same thing happened with Bill Clinton in '92, where the "preordained" candidate dropped out (ironically due to an affair) and Bill Clinton took his place. Come to think of it, that is how Obama got his senate seat. Someone cheated on 7 of 9 and suddenly Illinois has a black senator.

Anyways, just let us vote.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

This was tried in 1968. It failed, and the Democratic Party instituted superdelegates to prevent it from ever having a chance at being successful again. You can't vote your way out of capitalism.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

Sounds good.. First thing to do is make sure everyone votes in every primary and election.

No one GAF what you think unless you vote.

But somehow people think sitting out a vote for the 30th time in a row means the Democrats will finally listen to them...

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

It was time back in 2016 with Bernie, yet here we are now.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It is time to open your eyes to the reality and stop doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The democrats aren't there to serve you. They are there to provide an illusion of choice and to help shift the Overton window to the right.

You will never push them to the left because being on the left is antithetical to their purpose and existence.

If this election hasn't woken you up, what the fuck will?

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What other choice is there? Be realistic.

We are unfortunately a two-party state, a third party has no chance.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Lol, I need to be realistic? You've got a freshly elected open and proud fascist as president, and an "opposition" that did nothing to stop him since they both serve the same people (hint: it isn't you), and you still look at the two party system as if it's some immovable paragon of humane society (when in reality it's a human made construct designed by those in power to maintain it, and can and should be torn down), and I need to be realistic??? 😂🤯

Here, feel free to challenge your bias and take your own advice, though I won't be holding my breath:

https://itsgoingdown.org/dont-doom-scroll-organize-how-to-get-active-in-the-current-terrain/

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-are-you-an-anarchist-the-answer-may-surprise-you

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-full

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Typical anarchist. No sense of realism. The Libertarians of the left. Glad I left the anarchist shit-show.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lmfao, sure thing. But hey point proven I guess, so thanks.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Good luck with those two parties, fascist and fascist lite..

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 5 hours ago

Yes. The Democrats had their last chance to do the bare minimum, and they fucked it all up.

[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

ITT: folks who still think there will be free and fair elections in the US ever again

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 36 points 16 hours ago

This has been the rallying call from progressives for decades, they keep sliding right. At what point do we have to consider that entryism into the Dems just doesn't work? The party structure is designed to entrench establishment figures that are great at fundraising from wealthy Capitalists.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

No. Do a Bernie.

An independent can't win the presidency but independents absolutely can become state senators, state house reps or federal senators.

If you're a politician who manages to win your local democratic primary run as an independent with no one with the (D) label... if no one is wearing the label you'll outperform wearing it yourself.

You can affix yourself to a more niche party like Democratic Socialists of America or the Working Families Party but keep that (I).

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

I'll only believe a leftist could win an election for president AFTER a leftist wins an election for governor.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

not even sanders who is pretty tame as far as leftism go is sabotaged and not allowed to even compete.

the system itself is broken.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (24 children)

Was Senator good enough or nah?

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[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (33 children)

The funnny thing about elections is that politicians do the things people vote for. Literally no one gives a shit about people who don't vote. Everyone who sat out and couldn't even be arsed to vote third party just helped move the country to the right. Everyone who sits at home during primaries let's the rest of the country have its way.

Democrats don't implement the things that you want because you don't vote and therefore you don't matter. Republicans don't implement the things you that want because you don't vote and therefore you don't matter.

"Waah, waah, there's only two parties." More than half the country doesn't vote. That's enough to elect a third party candidate. Instead millions of idiots sat at home complaining that they can't get everything they want today, and moving the needle is too much work.

[–] Steve@communick.news 13 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Politicians do the things people ~~vote~~ donate for.

After that, they say things they think the people want to hear.

And blameing the public over not voting for somone they don't want to vote for, seems backwards. Politicians aren't entitled to any votes. They need to earn it.

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