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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 59 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Seeing Bernie speak truth to power is incredibly refreshing, especially since he points the finger not at the voting public, but at his own team mates, who absolutely did drop the ball multiple times.

I hope people actually take his words on board.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (32 children)

The Democratic party has failed us. We need an actual workers party and we have about 3 years to build it.

Join PSL if you have not already

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m tired of being told how awesome the economy is. It’s great for the rich, but the cost of necessities like housing, food, and healthcare has outpaced the CPI, so we all feel worse. A cheaper big screen tv doesn’t help much if you can’t afford the basics.

Aggregate economic data only says so much. Lots of INDIVIDUAL people are suffering. While the CPI is one basket of products, everyone has their own, and this everyone has their own rate of inflation. So saying wages have kept up with inflation is a fallacy on 2 fronts. Some saw income outpace the CPI, others it did not and they’ve lost income. But even among the former group, everyone had a personal rate of inflation that may well be higher than the CPI.

Instead, the wealthy and politicians look at averages and medians and assume it’s just negative feelings. But we were alive in the 90s. We were alive in the early 2000s. We know about the 50s and 60s. We know the economy used to be better for working people. We want better.

Trump, of course, will not deliver that. But Harris didn’t inspire confidence she would, either.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My wife is a teacher, so we use her healthcare, but I still peek in at the healthcare at my job when enrollment comes along, just to be diligent.

It went up 20% this year, from $600 to $720. If you make $30K a year and got a 3% cost of living adjustment, you make less this year than last year from healthcare alone.

Food, gas, rent, cars, childcare, utilities, everything is up. I guess it's cool that US steel or something might be doing well, and the stock market is up, but that minimally affects the day to day of most people.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago

And yet every newscast has a stock ticker. Even NPR gives the stock index ratings several times a day.

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 8 points 21 hours ago

How can this man be so based. The world simply didn't deserve him.

[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I hope liberals learn from this and start organizing. The billionaire-funded Democrat party will never pin blame on the capitalists that fund them to get working class votes.

As this article points out:

Bernie’s coalition was filled with the exact type of voters who are now flocking to Donald Trump: Working class voters of all races, young people, and, critically, the much-derided bros. The top contributors to Bernie’s campaign often held jobs at places like Amazon and Walmart. The unions loved him. And— never forget — he earned the coveted Joe Rogan endorsement that Trump also received the day before the election this year. It turns out, the Bernie-to-Trump pipeline is real! While that has always been used as an epithet to smear Bernie and his movement, with the implication that social democracy is just a cover for or gateway drug to right wing authoritarianism, the truth is that this pipeline speaks to the power and appeal of Bernie’s vision as an effective antidote to Trumpism. When these voters had a choice between Trump and Bernie, they chose Bernie. For many of them now that the choice is between Trump and the dried out husk of neoliberalism, they’re going Trump.

Read Blackshirts and Reds

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Please note that the "Bernie bros" that became right wing could have been psyops. I've seen a few ones stupidly admitting it, because Trump would have struggled against Bernie, maybe even have lost in a landslide.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Liberals and neoliberals are the problem. The only solution is for progressives to start a new party. The DNC just showed that it is incapable of learning, constantly courting the right that will never actually vote for them, or telling billionaire donors to fuck off.

Liberals are just conservatives that refuse to take their masks off. Neoliberals even more so. These are the "white moderates," and the "supporters of the MIC," that Martin Luther King Jr., and Eisenhower warned us about.

Bernie showed us the way forward. Billionaires are merely dragons to be slain and ignored.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago

The last great presidential candidate. The only once I’ve ever actually liked.

Hopefully more senators like AOC will come around that were motivated by Bernie and can take the party over.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 42 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I think the Democrats are too far right, but that's not what lost them the election. What lost them the election is that voters think the President controls the price of groceries, and if cheaper groceries means killing a lot of brown people, that's a small price to pay.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is going to prove that the President controls the price of groceries by enacting tariffs on imported food and getting rid of all the people who catch, raise, and harvest our food. He's going to make grocery prices go through the roof.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm sure that will be blamed on someone else. Probably trans people.

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[–] ifGoingToCrashDont@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The right are perpetually angry. They are angry when they win and angry when they lose. It's a hallmark of their cult. There's no pleasing these people because they don't know what they're angry about, they just prefer to be angry.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It is so incredibly refreshing to hear someone with (however limited) power say what I've been seeing with the naked eye.

A four-hour drive through rural America last week showed me this: trump signs in the very poorest and the very richest yards, for miles and miles. There was the occasional Harris sign for obviously middle-class dwellings but not all.

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[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want Bernie for president and I'm not even American.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We tried. And almost got him. But then the DNC Services Corp rigged the game against us to stop him.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve said this before but the DNC is actually just another wing of the Oligarchy. They exist to provide a fabricated conflict so that people think it’s a divide based on ideals, not on class divide it truly is. Look at the wealth of all of the leaders in the DNC. It’s pretty much the same circles and wealth as the RNC.

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