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[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 day ago (9 children)

To be fair, the Republicans did all these same things and won all three branches, so...

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

Because right wingers want that and left wingers don't, that's some surprising maths.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

It shouldn't have to be repeated so often that maybe Republican voters aren't who the Democratic party needs to be gearing itself to attract.

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[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stop it Patrick, you’re scaring the liberals. Imagine how shocking it must be for reality to prove that the leftists were correct about everything this entire time. Again.

Really weird how leftists have a 100% accuracy rate about all of history going back 150 years, but I’m sure the liberals will take some Ws eventually.

Just keep barreling towards fascism, libs! I believe in you!

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago (6 children)

“So what you’re saying is we need to move further to the right.”

  • Democrats and pundits
[–] freshcow@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Exactly the message I expect them to take away from this, if 2016 and 2020 are any indication. Zero introspection.

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[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

“Voters voted for the choice furthest to the right because they wanted the choice on the left to be more left”

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. People want a populous movement. In the absence of left-wing populism (like socialist reforms), they will take right win populism (fascism).

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

Democrats campaigned on making billionaires pay their fair share and addressing health care and student loans etc so socialist reforms. But the majority of voters were still convinced that that would make them worse off unfortunately.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Did they? If they did, then they did a terrible job of it, since many people didn't hear that message. The message that everyone heard over and over again is "I'm not trump". Besides, promising to get rid of student loans as a campaign promise when you just spent 4 years proving that you can't really deliver on that promise seems unwise.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

They did and it was loud and clear and everyone I know that voted republican did so because they thought democrats were bad for the economy and polls showed that.

You’re scapegoating democrats for not doing enough when really there just wasn’t enough voters that supported them because of right wing propaganda.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

Key word being, "addressing." Medicare for All? Nope. They're going to address healthcare costs. Student loans insanely expensive for the majority of Americans? They already tried addressing it. What are they going to do? Eliminate the filibuster to pass legislation? Stack the Supreme Court?

They've been a little better on taxing the wealthy, but raising taxes doesn't mean much if you believe the revenue is going towards the military industrial complex or, "woke," agenda, based on your political leanings.

Liberal half measures aren't going to work anymore. They need a full-blown progressive agenda and the balls to ram it through whatever institution is in their way.

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[–] Evolith@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Biden campaigned on similar promises and ideals like resolving student debt and improving the economy. Even personally relevant promises like creating a public health jobs corps (relevant to my degree and field of study). The only thing he sufficiently accomplished were the initial vaccination efforts, but it's as if we stopped having an actual president into and after 2022: The filthy rich managed to get exponentially richer with this war-supply economy and stock market presidency. My student debt is still a burden in the back of my mind and all of my available graduate-entry jobs are either severely underpaid or shilled out to robots that also vet my applications. Until the war profiteer and stock market billionaires actually pay their fair share (which they should have been a few years ago) or provide citizens with jobs that can sustain a healthy living, any good socialist promises that are made are flat-out lies because senility and flacid mental acuity won't even be a valid excuse anymore.

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[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People didn't vote. Significantly less turnout this year than 2020. Further left is more exciting than an idiot chasing endorsement from Republicans.

It's stupid, but if people weren't stupid Trump wouldn't have been a candidate.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

More like out of 2 right wing options people went for the more right wing option.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (16 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

Primaries happened. Biden won it, Harris likely wouldn't have, but by the time Joe dipped it was too late to do the process again.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

And that was likely by design, or at least people think it was. Kamala wouldn't have won the primaries, so the DNC rat fucked another primary to put their chosen candidate on the ballot.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Not our problem, Democrats decided to run a person no one trusted or liked and instead of listening to voters they kept him in until the donor class spoke up and said no. A real indicator of runs the country.

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[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 points 19 hours ago

It has always been that we could go left or we go right when things got tough for the masses. It was unlikely that USA was gonna go left, so we had to go right. Either way, capitalism wins.

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