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This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.

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[โ€“] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 30 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm not doubting you OP, just asking if anyone has the voter demographics data that shows Gen Z males voted for Trump because I'm interested in the #'s of the issue.

As to the question of the post: I think part of the issue is that what it means to be a strong, mentally healthy male has been left unspecified or even attacked in recent years and that's left a lot of young men confused and upset. Men get all sorts of advice on what's wrong to do, but not enough on what's right. Contradictory advice makes the confusion worse.

Are you supposed to chase a girl or is that creepy? How do you navigate increased romantic isolation and dating apps in a healthy way? What are expectations about being the sole income provider a la tradition? In that vacuum confident, opinionated, clear voices are persuasive, and a lot of those voices are the jackasses pushing a toxic masculinity and telling males to reclaim it. We need more strong, positive male role models and visible social support of them if we want to win young men back - they have to know that being better will yield rewards.

[โ€“] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 26 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No you're fair to do so, here's the demographic breakdowns and differences between 2020 and 2024 from NBC exit polls.

The particular thing to note is that Trump support jumped from 36% to 42% in the 18-29 demographic, while the other age groups remained steady, this is what I think the tweet is going off of.

[โ€“] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You are my hero :) Thank you for the link! You are right to say that number is probably significant. Given how vocal female support of Kamala was, it's likely young men make up a lot of that shift too. Of course we'll have to wait for more detailed stats to be sure, but it's not unreasonable IMO.

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[โ€“] bacon_saber@fedia.io 25 points 12 hours ago

Obviously in their lives they've been massively influenced by social media starting from a younger age than any previous generations. And you know what kind of garbage is out there.

[โ€“] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 23 points 12 hours ago

Men have already long been abused by the patriarchy alongside with women. In the last couple of years the so-called "liberals" claiming to fight against the patriarchy have joined in the abuse by denying men any escape from that situation

[โ€“] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

Yeah well if you ignore and ridicule young men asking for help this is what you get

[โ€“] iii@mander.xyz 15 points 12 hours ago (16 children)

I had a look on scholar.google.com, but alas, all research after 2020 was either related to young male athletes, or related to gender/sexual health. There seems to be little attention given to young males.

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"Solidarity forever" applies across gender lines as well as race and other sources of disparity. I wish this could have been made more apparent to our young men, social media has them in its clutches unfortunately. Billionaires did that.

[โ€“] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

It's counterculture. Young people, particularly young males, have always been obsessed with counterculture movements. Now why they View progressivism as the culture they need to counter I'm not sure, but they do.

[โ€“] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

You know the innocent but in context messed up movie I watched right before this election because of a song? The Sound of Music. Know the young girls "love interest?" Goes full Nazi by the halfway point.

That's your Gen Z men looking to fit in a new Nazi order.

[โ€“] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

If anything I think its the opposite.

[โ€“] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You would be too if you were raised by the YouTube algorithm

[โ€“] djsoren19@yiffit.net 6 points 11 hours ago

Hey I was raised exclusively by the YouTube algorithm, and I came away from it with a deep appreciation for animation, an incredibly stupid sense of humor, and a sexuality on the spectrum of "Yes, please." It can't be the only reason!

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