this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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  1. Mod of !anarchism@slrpnk.net posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
  2. Multiple people point out that’s very clearly not what she meant
  3. Removed by mod Removed by mod Removed by mod Removed by mod

Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @mambabasa@slrpnk.net

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[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anarchy is not equal to "no rules". That's anti-anarchy propaganda.

Lemmy in itself is anarchist because each community is allowed to have its own set of rules, and each instances as well.

The point of anarchy is that if you and a group of other people disagree with how someone is handling things, you can exclude them from your group. Of course, this is all in the context of leftist and communist ideologies.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The point of anarchy is that if you and a group of other people disagree with how someone is handling things, you can exclude them from your group.

I must have missed that part being key, when I was reading about Kropotkin and the mutualists. I thought it was some other things were mainly “the point.”

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

It is key. Anarchist theory is supposed to prove that hierarchy is not necessary. Proving that a group of people can manage themselves without one is the point.

I also added in the last sentence in order to include this. Multual aid is a leftist theory. Maybe the misunderstanding stems from this, as I didn't intend it to mean "that's the only point of anarchy", so my bad. I still think it is important though.

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[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I don't think you know what anarchism is

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

PTB, but wow, that quote made my blood pressure skyrocket.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The quote from Greta Thungerg? Why?

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

YDI: Going to an anarchist space to spout anti-anarchist viewpoints makes the use of mod powers to remove such viewpoints reasonable. It's like going to a vegan place to argue about the benefits of meat, or going to a feminist place to argue "not all men".

Some anarchist communities are setup for this sort of debate. Some are not. Both are OK to exist.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (20 children)

Thank you @db0. I co-mod !anarchism@slrpnk.net and administer on SLRPNK. I also support @mambabasa's moderation decisions.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

You are letting people into your space to use it for political propaganda, because they are making a pretty thin and implausible claim to being on your team. I don't think this person is on your team. For about two weeks, they have been posting constantly about Kamala Harris and the Democrats. They can't keep their story straight as to whether they know who Jill Stein is. They constantly accuse anyone who dissents from their viewpoint of various wild strawman horrible things, repeatedly, and even after repeated clarifications.

Regardless of whether you agree with me on that or how you feel about the original issue, they're representing the anarchist community in an incredibly poor light. I think you should take some time to look over all the comments here. There's a group of people who are perfectly open to anarchism, reading and learning about it, and talking about moderation, having differences of opinion but working them out like normal humans. Then there's one person cursing at everyone and accusing them of all kinds of weird imaginary crimes, wanting to kill Palestinians on purpose with that as the only possible explanation for their statements, along with "evilism."

Are you really wanting to give this person a position of authority, to represent your community? I think that some of these political bad actors have developed the skill of putting on the right tribal affiliation so they'll get cover from genuine members of the community, even though when looked at in an objective light, they are clearly acting in toxic ways, and their motivation is pretty obviously related to the election, nothing to do with anything beyond the electoral.

You're free to grant authority in your community to whoever you want, but I don't think this person is showing any kind of good judgement or good faith, or showing your community in a positive light.

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Drag thinks Greta should have been clearer about her arguments, to prevent people co-opting them for the nonvoter movement. As it is, Greta's actions could end up worsening a genocide as astroturfers con anarchists into interpreting her words as anti-voting. And not voting means supporting genocide.

Drag also thinks SLRPNK is very poorly administrated for its goal of being a leftist space. The admins consistently goof into trusting bad-faith mods spreading deceptive narratives. There needs to be some regulation against astroturfing on that site, and there isn't.

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