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Key Points

  • A federal judge in Pennsylvania returned to state court a lawsuit against Elon Musk and his political action committee over their $1 million daily giveaway to voters in swing states.
  • The order came a day after the lawsuit by city District Attorney Larry Krasner was removed to federal court at the request of the Tesla CEO Musk and his America PAC.
  • Krasner's lawsuit accuses Musk and the PAC, who are supporting Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, of running an illegal lottery.
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[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 106 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

So now they can go into court on Monday and by the end of the day there will be an order that he has to stop his election lottery for an election that happens less than a day later.

Good job everyone. You did it.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My understanding is that if they charge him, it being in a state court means Trump can't pardon him if he wins.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The lawsuit in question is a civil matter, not a criminal one, but you are correct that that is the case if a state prosecutor does decide to bring criminal charges

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It could actually be a criminal one but the speculation is that the burden of proof is much higher and this was the DA getting it on the books before the election. Nothing prevents them from bringing criminal charges after putting the evidence before a grand jury.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, it is a long time before the statute of limitations kicks in

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

So absurd that the judge didn’t order an emergency stay.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 63 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Our reality’s version of Tony Stark is a total double bag

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago

Phony Shart

[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Justin Hammer, except he can't dance.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

im a huge star trek fan so i really appreciate this lol

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish there was even a sliver of a chance that this meant jail time for this goof.

[–] whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If any of us did something like this we’d get years.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

You should see all the hoops a PTA has to jump through to avoid having a 50/50 drawing classed as an illegal lottery in Pa. It's ridiculous that it took as long as it did for someone to file suit.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'd be happy if they just deported him. I mean jail time and heavy fines would be the dream but I'll take him having to leave the country. Isn't that what they want us to do with foreigners that commit crimes anyway?

Edit: Reminded this is a civil case so no chance of jail or deportation. Bit of doesn't hurt to have dreams.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Edit: Reminded this is a civil case so no chance of jail or deportation.

He's the world's second richest fucking person. HOW DOES HE GET PUNISHED IF NOT JAIL OR DEPORTATION?! A fine isn't a real fucking thing, it's the equivalent of me giving less than a penny even though I commited a crime. It's basically free for him

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

South African Idiot ~~Savant~~ Fails To Understand American Court System

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

So stricken

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or has lawyers that understand it perfectly and successfully delayed any injunctions until after it matters.

[–] Blaubarschmann 6 points 3 weeks ago

This. It's a delay tactic

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

seeking to chill Defendant Musk’s exercise of his First Amendment rights is absolutely unconstitutional coming from a government official

Oh wait but he wouldn’t have any 1st amendment protections if (let’s face it, when) he lied to get that H1-B back in the day

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, the 1st amendment does protect non-citizens as well as citizens.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I learned something new! Thanks for the correction.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

But on Wednesday night, lawyers for Musk and the PAC filed a notice removing the lawsuit to federal court.

Wait, that's something the lawyers for the defendant can just do on their own? WTF?

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Now hall his ass into court.