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Cooking with any plastic is a dubious enterprise, because heat encourages potentially harmful plastic compounds to migrate out of the polymers and potentially into the food. But, as Andrew Turner, a biochemist at the University of Plymouth recently told me, black plastic is particularly crucial to avoid.

In 2018, Turner published one of the earliest papers positing that black plastic products were likely regularly being made from recycled electronic waste. The clue was the plastic’s concerning levels of flame retardants. In some cases, the mix of chemicals matched the profile of those commonly found in computer and television housing, many of which are treated with flame retardants to prevent them from catching fire.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

^SPATULA^

^CITY!^

S P A T U L A

C I T Y !

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I always wonder if these sorts of dire warnings are real or just a marketing ploy.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Big Wood And Metal Utensil Lobby is going hard, for sure

[–] simon@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 days ago

I only use wooden spoons, spatulas and cutting boards myself. And fire retardants are obviously damaging to health, so throwing out black plastic is a good idea. But I don't think the article gives any good reason to avoid plastic in general. "Potentially harmful plastic compounds" sounds a lot like "compounds with zero evidence of being dangerous but they sound scary". Happy to be proven wrong though.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

flame removedants

facepalm. Censorship absurdity.

lol, that's lemmy.ml for you

Looks fine from sh.itjust.works

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That is your instance doing a shitty job of filtering.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Whaaaaat the fuck?

I had no fucking idea of this. I've been seen "removed" used more and more on the last months and I just thought people speak weird online nowadays.

My lemmy.lm instance has been censoring content that I see without me knowing it?

Fuck this shit, I'm going to look for another instance right now. One that treats me like an adult who wants to see what other people type so I can decide MYSELF if someone is an asshole for using certain language

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I like Lemm.ee because Sunaurus is a G and treats the users like adults capable of making their own decisions.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah it’s stupid

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[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's probably your instance. It shows up normally for me.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Like when I type ******* it just shows up as stars to you, but I see my password?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago
[–] mPony@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Part of the reason why I reject "retard" as an "ablest slur" you're just outright not allowed to say. When we don't censor idiot, stupid, moron, etc. I'm going to live to se the term "intellectually alternative" become unspeakable.

One of my favorites of these was "salsmurfer." On a multitool collector forum, the autocensor was set to replace bad words with "smurf." So there was a lot of "What the smurf was Gerber thinking?" One of the banned words was "twat." Something that multitool users are often concerned about is whether an expensive steel tool will survive service in maritime environments or indeed when used while diving in the ocean. An English teacher will tell you that "salt water" is two words, but what do they know?

"Will a skeletool rust if exposed to salsmurfer?"

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 70 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Plastic and food shouldn't mix.

We fucked up real bad. Gonna be a long road to fix this shit.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Sous vide has entered the chat.. with keurig knocking on the door

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The new thing is PFAS in the food chain. We're fucking it up faster than we're fixing it. Almost like profit motivation was a bad idea.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

As they say - plastic is stored in the balls.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Food and two different metals at once (that also touch each other) shouldn't either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyrj-CYC5I8

Basically, electrochemistry happens and the metal breaks down, seeping into the food. This is problematic for aluminum.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Food should never touch anything artificial. If it hasn't been levitating since the day it was hand harvested from old growth forest, it's basically pure poison.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 8 points 1 week ago

I yeet my food so high it stays in the air/orbit just long enough before I plan to eat it. Sometimes, it hits wild geese on the way up and they get cooked during reentry.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, if you have a cast iron pan that is extremely rusted, get a brass bristle drill attachment and blast all the rust off with it.

After you have finished that and cleaned it, season it like the other poster mentioned and it will be as smooth as almost any Teflon you've ever used.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Geez, I hope people aren’t out there using rusted cast iron. That’s beyond ignorant.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago

I have found cast iron pans in the trash that were trashed because they were Rusty. Cleaning them, de-rusting them, and reseasoning them was enough to put them back into service and they are some of my favorite cast iron.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

I’m ignorant. Tell me what’s the problem with rust? I thought iron oxide is a fairly stable compound.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Do yourself a favour and start using proper cast iron or stainless steel frying pans as well. You gotta learn how to use them, but it's a whole different level. I'm never going back to non-stick.

To get started with a new pan:

  1. Pour a bit of oil in it
  2. Dry it ALL up with a paper towel
  3. Heat up to high temperature, let cool.
  4. Repeat three times or so. This creates a coating of hardened oil.

~~Never, ever, wash with soap. If you do by accident, repeat the above process to coat the pan again.~~ (just don't scrub too violently with soap - I'm being outdated with my advice here)

When cooking:

  1. Heat up pan
  2. Add oil
  3. Add things into pan only when hot
  4. Use water or wine to deglaze when things get a little stuck. That's where you get deliciousness from - it's a feature, not a bug.

I use an old cast iron that's a bit rugged in the bottom for pancakes. It's the most amazing thing ever. I found it in the trash one day. The cast iron allows me to use a steel spatula when it needs to be thin, otherwise I use wood.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You can wash these pans with soap, you just shouldn’t abrade them. Soap isn’t going to remove the molecular bonding unless you’re scrubbing the hell out of it.

Also, Teflon’s a no go but I was under the impression ceramic is ok. Is anything wrong with that coating for cooking?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ceramic loses its' non-stick properties quite fast, cause the coating gets micro-cracked.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm on year four of using a ceramic pan to cook scrambled eggs in butter at least 4 days a week and it is still pretty slick.

Is it other foods like acidic tomato sauces that mess with the coating?

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A new cast iron pan should be washed with soap and water. They’re usually coated with something you don’t want to be eating to keep them from rusting from the factory to your home. You scrub that off and then season it.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I wash my cast iron with dish soap after every use and I can still slide eggs around in the pan. Definitely agree, though. I only have 1 non-stick pan that I almost never use. Stainless steel and cast iron are really the only 2 types that you need

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yay for being overly cautious after the BPA thing and deciding to avoid plastic as much as possible and strictly avoiding it when dealing with high heat.

Though I still wonder about the chemicals used to treat/seal wooden utensils.

It is kinda funny coming back full circle, because as a kid I thought the wooden spoons we had were relics of the past and preferred the smooth plastic ones.

Now I prefer the wooden ones, stains, cracks, and all. Just limit how long you soak them for when doing dishes.

On that note, I've found that most dishes only need to soak for a minute or less before they are easier to clean. And if you rinse them before anything dries, you probably won't even need to soak at all.

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do they make wooden thin spatulas?

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

No, but they do make them in metal.

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would silicone be a safe alternative?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago
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