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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Independent but then their coms are purely proprietary, US-based sludge. If you think folks should be contributing to your project, you should be using technology where you can where you & your contributors can patch & make better too. There is no good reason to be limited to only Microsoft Github & Discord.

Don’t get it wrong: I have followed for years & want the project to succeed, but this reliance on corporations & not giving your users a private option where they can control their data needs to stop. Normies have ignorance excuse but software makers do not as they generally know better about how these tech firms operate.

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

63.3K commits from 1K+ contributors and still pre-alpha, it's amazing what a nightmare web browsers have become!

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (56 children)

It's the one with a dev that thinks that replacing "he" by "they" is political propaganda?

Yeah, no thanks.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Can you provide some context?

Edit: I found the context. Here and here.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

maybe I'm not seeing where the smoking gun is, here. I see a guy saying something akin to "can we not do this here in the github please"

and then I see a bunch of people blowing up and yelling about "dehumanization" over it.

...why is this such a huge deal exactly?

[–] InstallGentoo@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Absolutely nothing. The fact that they had to bring up a totally irrelevant 3 year old issue during an event that is supposed to be celebrated tells you a lot. They have been blatantly brigading various communities just for attention, and probably to get the dev cancelled or something. Even this post, the privacy community does not need this whole chain of replies. And yet, they overshadow every legit discussion with this bullshit unprompted.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so I don't understand. why are all these comments yelling the same stuff? did they just decide to harass this one guy for saying "take it somewhere else, please"?

I'm trying to find anything malicious in anything he's said. I'm finding nothing but a dude working on a browser.

this kind of behavior scares me greatly. I know individuals who have been victims of real transphobia. this seems to be a simple language difference. and I think targeting this guy is a mistake.

Flooding and being loud doesn't make them right. it just means they're loud.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m trying to find anything malicious in anything he’s said

They use the "silence is violence" trope to harass and terrorize projects, hiding behind their "protected status" as a transgender. Whenever someone rejects anything that calls for "greater inclusion", they go nuclear and tell all their friends to do the same. The bullied becomes the bully. It's very childish. It's always people that never contribute any meaningful code as well.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

edit omg I'm sorry I was replying to the wrong comment. they got me fucked up. lol

I'm with you. i see this a lot in the lgbt community and nobody calls them out on it.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m dumb, but I completely do not understand what the dev did to upset people.

I read the thread and I’m confused about it.

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[–] billgamesh@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thanks for the heads up. Not worth the time

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

for someone who can speak a language that lacks gendered pronouns, this "hysteria" over he/she/they is ridiculous!

[–] exu@feditown.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who speaks a language with gendered pronouns but no neutral option, this is very awkward to deal with.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

yes, it's awkward for the "individual" who is longing for reliable expression

it also seems to be awkward for people who can't figure out the changes in the language they think as their own. They are irritated by their "disfigured" reflection

it's awkward for officials who need to make decisions (positive or negative) about the use of "inclusive" language

we give shape to languages and languages shape us

English could initially have neutral pronouns and people would be obliged to find other reasons to hate each other 🤷

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well on the contrary you should understand it more. A gendered pronoun carries an idea of gender, and having a genderless pronoun frees the sentence of this gender assumption. Nothing very hard to understand.

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[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 47 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Is this browser private? Does it implement proper sandboxing and have any methods of anti-fingerprinting? I hope it eventually see the implementation of a robust content blocker. What makes this related to privacy and not instead just open source. While it is nice to see an independent web engine, if there is no method of anti-fingerprinting, the privacy of this browser is severely limited.

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[–] Dungrad 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

servo.org: am I a joke to you?

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

literally never heard of it.

[–] Upstream7564@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 days ago

I think as more competition and choices we have, so better.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 points 4 days ago

Dillo sobs lonely.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

At least might help compete with Firefox to improve Foss browsers.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago

Ambitious.

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