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Help Identify This Connector (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by kjo@discuss.tchncs.de to c/askelectronics@discuss.tchncs.de
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Hello Ask Electronics community, please help me identify the name of this connector.

For context, this is from a motor scooter: Yamaha Mio M3 125. This socket connects the ECU to the wiring harness.

I wish to know how to open this socket to access the rubber/silicone seal inside, and to know that first I need to identify the name of this connector.

So anyone know what is the name of this connector?

Something like "Superseal 24-pin" or so. Also, to clarify: I am not searching for replacement part for this connector. I only need to know the name.

Here are some more pictures of the connector (hover above the picture to see alt-text).

(None of the pictures are mine, I just copied them from the internet).

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[–] guy_threepwood@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Looks like a Deutsch connector, although working out which one might be a challenge.

https://www.deutschusa.com

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Not sure what the connector is, but those look like Metri-Pack pins. They release by sliding a thin flat tool or a small jewelers screwdriver in the slot at the bottom of the housing of each pin, lifting a bit to release the pin, and pulling them out the back. Then you can replace that seal, but you'll have to pull all the wires (keep them in order and marked).

[–] captnanonymous@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Best guess: 24 pin ECU ECM

[–] captnanonymous@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This seems to be a proprietary connector, so I'm not sure if there's an ISO standard designation (like DE9 or RS232). Mouser has these listed as SICMA Sealed Full Interconnect.

Here's a datasheet. Good luck!

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

Here’s the important part of your looking to re-pin this type of connector:

Aptiv Sicma Interconnect Sealed Headers are offered in 6, 24, 56, or 90 cavity count (ways) in 1, 2, or 3 rows with 1.5mm, 2.8mm, or mixed cavity configurations.

Looking at Delphi 1.5 or 2.8 connectors might get good results too.

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks, however searching for "24 pin ECU ECM" yields in variety of connectors, most of which do not look like the picture in my post.

Also ECU and ECM appears to mean the same thing according to Wikipedia.

So "24 pin ECU ECM" is probably just a generic search term for all 24-pins ECU connector, instead of the proper name that I am looking for.

[–] jj122@lemmings.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Based on the video from tokopedia, it seems like you might just need a depinning tool. But these look extremely cheap, so buy a spare and pull it apart to figure it out. I doubt you can replace just the gasket and you will probably need to replace the whole connector.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

As someone who used to sleeve existing computer PSUs, that tool will make you want to murder things. Just an FYI.

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, that's probably what I will end up doing. 🫣

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Looks a lot like MX23A series

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/206/B_0094_2E_MX23A-1132557.pdf

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This looks like a step in the right direction. Not quite the same but similar enough. I'll try to look for this manufacturer's catalog. Thank you!

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah there's so many manufacturers of various connectors that it can be really tricky to nail down the exact model numbers

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is it this?

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, however that listing does not indicate the name of the connector. I have searched that online market site (Tokopedia), and none of the listing that I found actually indicates the proper name of the connector. Some listed the Yamaha part number, but no info about the actual connector name.

I was hoping a name like "Superseal 24-pin", or something like that. That way I can start searching for documentations, videos, etc.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wish to know how to open this socket to access the rubber/silicone seal inside, and to know that first I need to identify the name of this connector

What exactly do you mean by this, is the connector sealed?

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is rubber/silicone seal around the inner recess of the socket connector, which I assume is for waterproofing when connected with the male plug.

I want to find out how to access the seal, to remove it, to replace it (just the seal).

To be able to do so, I first need to identify the name of the socket connector so I can search for its documentation.

[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's probably a proprietary connector made specifically for Yamaha, or Yamaha made it themselves. It's loosely based on car connectors from what I can see, but I don't think you're gonna find much info about it.

I'd just go in "guns blazing" with this thing. If there is a replacement for it and it's fairly cheap I mean. If not, I'd try and pry the silicon off with some of my DIY tools for these sorts of situations.

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

I'd just go in "guns blazing" with this thing.

That's the plan if I cannot find any info of this thing.