Don’t use meta anything
this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2024
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I agree and practice this, but also impossible in some parts of the world. Luckily not in Canada, the US, or Japan. Sorry, other places.
So the bottom line is don't use WhatsApp contacts manager? Got it.
OH BOY THAT SOUNDS SWELL AND DEFINITELY NOT A DATA GRAB
They already grabbed the data when you gave them access to your contacts with their current model.
That's what confuses me, I'm not seeing what their benefit is in this. They have one, and I'm sure it's nefarious, but I don't see it.
Is this deshittification?
Oooor it's a change being made by Meta to ensure that all your contact details are entered into a platform owned by them (since the underlying phone OSes have made scraping that data harder in recent versions), so they can more efficiently mine your data so Zuck can afford another yacht.
I'd like to think it's a user benefit, but I mean, historically.... it wont't be. (Yes they claim it's encrypted, but I don't trust Meta one bit to still not have some way to use this data for their benefit.)
It’s reasonable not to trust them, but they could get in serious legal trouble if they are claiming the data is encrypted and they can’t access when in fact they can.
WhatsApp has a different business model. There are a lot of businesses on the platform and businesses are charged to do business messaging with users.
In some parts of the world WhatsApp has become a somewhat essential part of life so plenty of businesses what to participate and access the users there.
How Meta got into that position involved zero-rating— a practice where they work with ISPs to make sure there are no data fees to access WhatsApp.
While free seems good, the practice allowed WhatsApp to quickly dominate, crowd out competitors and make itself essential.
https://www.humanrightspulse.com/mastercontentblog/is-zero-rating-a-threat-to-human-rights
“What makes a zero-rating practice, like that of WhatsApp in Brazil, particularly threatening to human rights is when it is the only economically viable option for internet access in a society. In Brazil, as an internet connection can swallow up to 15% of the household income, users rely on these practises. As Professor Belli points out that economically, no other opportunity exists to assess the information being presented.”
I'd like to think it's a user benefit, but I mean, historically.... it wont't be. (Yes they claim it's encrypted, but I don't trust Meta one bit to still not have some way to use this data for their benefit.)
Eh, I would actually believe this is purely user driven. Their solution doesn't sound like it will work differently in Europe vs the rest of the world, and if their claims about it being encrypted and only user accessible are true, there is fundamentally no benefit to them from a data harvesting stand point.
They also face a lot of competition in the messaging space, moreso than any of their other apps, which will generally incentivize them to be more user focused.
Everyone I know has their contacts backed up to google or apple. Enter your account and password into your new phone and your contacts are there. Zero benefit.
Please, for the love of my sanity, make it shut up about backing up my whatsapp chat history. I said no. I mean no. Stop asking. There's nothing in there I cherish. I don't care that you have a problem backing up the nothing I chose to the nowhere i configured; just stop.
I said yes and now I get a backing up bar in my notification tray that rushes to ~90% and then hangs for the day. Finishes in time to start again