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China has begun its second day of military drills targeting Taiwan, in what it says is punishment for “separatist acts” after the inauguration of its new president on Monday.

The exercises, which involve Chinese military units from the air force, rocket force, navy, army, and coast guard, were announced suddenly on Thursday morning, with maps showing five approximate target areas in the sea surrounding Taiwan’s main island. Other areas also targeted Taiwan’s offshore islands, which are close to the Chinese mainland.

China’s defence ministry said the drills on Friday were testing its military’s ability to “seize power” and occupy key areas, in line with Beijing’s ultimate goal of annexing Taiwan. Taiwan’s government and people reject the prospect of Chinese rule, but China’s ruler Xi Jinping has not renounced the use of force to take the island. Western intelligence has claimed Xi has told the People’s Liberation Army to be capable of an invasion by 2027.

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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think the weakness shown around Ukraine is now having the opposite effect that the early strong support and western democratic unity had at the start of the war, the CCP senses there's blood in the water.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this and the us has been threatening war over taiwan for a while there too

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Uh huh, remind me; who is threatening to invade who?

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Taiwan is recognized as part of China by the majority of countries in the world, Including the US.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That isn't an answer to the question.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The question is foolish and reflects a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The question reveals everything one needs to understand about who is threatening who, as does your refusal to answer it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

ill remind you the us has been threatening to interfere here even though they recognized taiwan is part of china in the 70s (and reiterated it a couple of times).

this doesnt need to turn uglier than it is.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not the US manning the air defenses that keep the Chinese jets at bay.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it actually is, if you consider all the us-controlled military bases in the area (even in vietnam!). also their military drills that are always suspiciously close.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

It actually isn't. The Taiwanese are the ones keeping the CCP out. The Taiwanese government is democratically elected, the soldiers are Taiwanese, the people manning the dfenses are Taiwanese. That might be inconvenient for your narrative but it's the simple, obvious reality.

If Taiwan wanted to be part of the CCP's empire they would've joined already.

[–] lung@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What Bartsbigbugbag meant to say is "the US has been actively inching closer to China for decades and has completed a full military base / trade wall that spans across the entire set of islands - Japan, Taiwan, Philippines - outlining the entire east / south China seas and reducing China's economic/military power"

China has ample reason to be pissed at this. It's actually a very impressive contain if you look at the positions of our military bases and trade routes. But it's also just normal Risk-style territory control that all superpowers play with. Nobody is really the bad guy here, and the island countries like their situation - like Japan, historic enemy of China - gets to enjoy doing nothing while America basically runs their entire military for them

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Look, as long as the CCP is in control in China I couldn't give a shit what they want or what they think they're entitled to. The Chinese government 100% is the 'bad guy' here, it is not a normal state by any stretch of the imagination. If the US is standing in the way of them and their imperial ambitions that's good.

Japan should be able to do nothing (as opposed to worrying about their "enemy"). Everyone is happy with the arrangement except China, who is doing just fine without invading Taiwan.

They still get to go out and strip-mine the oceans for fish, it's purely about the CCP pretending it's entitled to some kind of military advantage in the region that would allow them to push their neighbors around.

[–] BoxerDevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Neo Axis powers: China, Russia and Isreal

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Neo Axis powers: China, Russia

Makes sense

and Isreal

wut

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Israel is in the middle of throwing a hissy fit because western populations don't like what we're seeing done to Palestine. As soon as we take our weapons away from them they'll switch to Russian and Chinese systems and Russia is already two feet into round 2 of an attempted genocide of Ukrainians, specifically Crimean Tatars and other historic groups with stronger ties to Kievan Rus than the muscovites.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No reason for Russia to support Israel when they already support their enemies

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't really follow, Russia has plenty to gain from an Israeli defection away from the west. Those "enemies" are a red herring

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Russia is allied with Iran already.

As you might have heard Iran is not a fan of israel.