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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't subscribe to threads you'll never see it.

[–] tobbue@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great and such, but the large majority that might come to the Fediverse will never look nor use that function. If we don't defederate with our instances now, we never will.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing you don't get is that more common people will find the lemmy servers for the first time. Additionally it is more of a Twitter clone and doesn't threaten much.

[–] tobbue@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "find Lemmy servers?" I mean, can you describe how that will look like from the perspective of someone that is using threads? And how that will motivate more common people to change the platform or browsing behavior?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lemmy.world is a server running lemmy software. It's federated so you can subscribe to lw communities of Mastodon and comment as well. Threads and Mastodon don't support communities though so all they can do is subscribe and comment. There is no negative to lemmy servers of Threads being federated. Threads users will subscribe to lemmy communities, but stay on Threads. If you're on a lemmy server it doesn't change anything. You'll just see posts and comments with accounts ending with @threads

[–] tobbue@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

From my understanding of your earlier comment you said casual Threads users will find out about Lemmy servers for the first time and I asked about how that will work out from the perspective of a threads user. I hoped for an answer of that.

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Could threads generate so much data that it costs to much to keep an instance/server running?

In my opinion all big player are just federating to destroy the fediverse or take it over. Why else would they be here? There is just no need for them to be here exept to kill competition before it gets to big.

[–] mtcerio@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside from the "moral" argument, can someone ELI5 what harm can a federated threads.net do on other users (like me) and/or instances?

[–] bort@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the general strategie is called "embrace, extend, extinguish". This strat is the reason, why everyone uses MS Office today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As opposed to Threads stealing all brands companies and users anyway?

There’s still advantages to a fediverse and ways to defend against “embrace extend extinguish” if you plan ahead.

We can’t complain about proprietary networks if we don’t allow others to join our own open ones.

[–] bort@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As opposed to Threads stealing all brands companies and users anyway?

The extend-phase is when people migrate to threads, who would have stayed otherwise.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Let users decide because we’re fucking adults.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why I don't understand all the hysteria about this.

If I don't want to see Threads or I don't want Threads to see me, I can go to a Threads account and click "block threads.net".

But obviously that's too complicated and it's easier to just whinge to your instance admin about how Threads federation will be the death of us all. 🙄

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[–] asuka@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This. Imagine begging daddy admin to protect you from mean Meta.

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