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[–] walderan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Friendly, and unsolicited reminder that the Minetest engine + its game Mineclonia (or alternatively Voxelibre) are a pretty good open source alternative as of late.
Minetest is also getting some pretty nice upgrades to its graphics lately. The upcoming release should be looking quite pretty.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we shouldn't have had to transition but if you didn't know they were doing this then you probably haven't tried to play the game within the last 5 years

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm one of those people. I haven't played in years. I may never have played again. I only found out because my daughter is now at an age where she asked if we could play together. I received no notice from Microsoft and I don't do social media so it was a complete surprise to me when I couldn't log in, then find out through their support that I had lost access to something I had legally paid for.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I sincerely doubt you received no notice from Microsoft. I received multiple emails from them, even though I didn't play back then. If I hadn't transitioned I'm pretty sure they would've kept sending me emails.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I got no notice. I've got an alpha account.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I'm very surprised by the discourse in this thread. I understand that people were given lots of warning, but that doesn't excuse that they just had their purchase recinded. Why not just allow download of an old version of Minecraft Java still?

I'd consider myself a Microsoft fanboy as I've had Xbox live for nearly 2 decades and Game Pass since it came into existence. Removing people's purchases for any reason is a scummy move.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I lost my Minecraft account to this, but that's because the email address I bought the game with was with Lavabit, and thus never was able to receive any of the emails. Couldn't verify I owned it either because again, no access to the email address.

I was just a kid when I signed up for that Lavabit address sometime in the 2000s, a kid who was vaguely interested in the idea of privacy and software freedom (I used PPC Ubuntu on a G3 iBook btw). Bought Minecraft Alpha in 2010 for €10. Now because of time passing and some bullshit happening I don't have access to any of it.

But tbh I never opened a support ticket or anything, because fuck Microsoft. Its the principle of the whole thing

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As much as I think it's a shitty move, they warned about it for long enough, and they can't be expected to maintain a deprecated login system indefinitely.

I don't know if I migrated my account though, but since I only play on self hosted servers I don't care, worst case scenario I'll crack it to not need a login and be done with it.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What do you mean, they warned about it long enough? I bought it, I played it as a kid. Now I want to share it with my kids and it turns out Microsoft said on some website somewhere, and maybe in a few emails to a nonexistent aol address, that they want me to update my account, and since I didn’t do that I have to buy it a second time? I learned today that they’ve “attempted to contact me”. I never agreed to a EULA that said I had a limited amount of time for anything. Nor did anyone else who purchased before 2011.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bought it before 2011, technically if you lost access to the email you might have lost access to that account years ago without knowing. Even if Microsoft was doing what I think they should, i.e. keep a database of emails and allow people to migrate their account forever, you would still not be able to recover it. Wanting to get an account back from an email you lost access to is like expecting steam to give you all of the keys on your account to add to another if you forgot your password and can't prove it is you.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Forgot about replying but I’m begging y’all to stop coming up with reasons this isn’t an issue, I have proof of purchase on an old hard drive and my username and password worked til the day I stopped playing. Very quickly googled and support used to help people migrate accounts with no email access, so yes authenticating a login on the server was plenty for them, just not anymore. Comparison doesn’t work

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you lost access to the email and forgot the password you can't demonstrate to the support person that you are who you say you are. If support people changed your password under those conditions then the system could be abused to reset random people's passwords. Also you don't know if your username/password still worked, if those credentials were leaked anyone could have changed your password, and Minecraft old auth system leaked a few username/passwords, I remember having a list of them that I used to introduce people to the game (obviously I never changed anyone's password, but there are plenty of douchebags out there)

BTW I never said this isn't an issue, IMO they should keep a DB and allow the migration indefinitely, so it is shitty of them to put a time limit on it. But if you lost access to the email for that account I can understand them not allowing the migration, part of activating an account is usually validating the email address, so whoever owns your email address now gets to own that account.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

???

and forgot the password

Made-up scenario.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am against DRM just like everyone else but trust me they tried. They emailed me constantly telling me to move the account. There has to be some personal responsibility right?

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 0 points 2 months ago

Responsible for what? Getting something I paid for stolen?

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

These people had years to migrate their accounts, were told to migrate their accounts, and warned to migrate their accounts because the old mojang auth system is insecure and needs to be sunsetted, and when it does, they will lose access.

They sat there and played the "no, I won't move" game, and now they're upset because the thing they were told for years would happen happened.

And they would have had to have no social interaction with any minecraft player on any online platform and in real life in all those years, as well as ignore every email from mojang, never look at the minecraft website, and so on, to not be notified.

[–] mormund@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

I bought the game at the of alpha with an email I lost access to at some point. I remember my Password and Username but forgot the email address I used. I think it also wasn't even possible to change the email address in the Mojang Account back then. So I definitely didn't sit around and ignored the migration, I even tried contacting the support.

Anyways what sucks is that I remembered my email address this winter, but already after the cut off point. Would have been nice to get to keep that very old account. But as others have mentioned, the experience is probably better with a pirated version anyway.

[–] Varven@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

If your mad it's your own fault you had 3 years