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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The switch from using shit like Napster/LimeWire/eDonkey/etc to BitTorrent was fairly easy. It was the lack of the torrent app itself not having a file search in it that made things feel like they went backwards.

Before Napster and the rest, you'd do a web search for "warez" and sift through shady sites to find a working download link. After Napster, you'd just search for what you want in the app. I know there are torrent apps that do this now, but I don't know how wide of a reach they actually have. I still just go to a tracker's website and find things to magnet link.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

eDonkey was an easy way to share something with a group of friends via P2P!

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gen X here. I still use my eMule client! Because you just share whole directory structures, it's great for finding and sharing older obscure stuff.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

generation "doesn't want to deal with petabytes of hard drive bullshit just to watch a show"

/side eyes dvd collection

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How could I possibly know a streaming site is illegal?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Streaming sites are illegal? How could I have known that??

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

gen zalpha here!! we few who torrent do exist

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[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As part of Gen Z I do not approve this message. When I was young I would stream movies from stream sites (to be fair I had no money to have VPN to torrent etc) but I have not visited one of those for like 5 years now since I learned more. Now not all gen Z is tech smart I see it in my friends and family members close to me age who are.... Dumb and worse they don't care to get better and think it's fine and that is what the problem is imo.

[–] ihatetheworld@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

i don't get this 'generation gap' thing. There are also Milennials who are just as clueless.

You can always dive into the whole private tracker, sonarr/radarr + media server setup if you want superior quality or just to host your own files. But if you are happy with what streaming sites/apps provide that is fine too.

I for one am glad that piracy is easily accessible by anyone who has access to the internet.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Through various stages of my life I have used torrents, streaming, Usenet, Napster, limewire, aol/IRC chat rooms, discord, and even google searches. You must adapt to whatever works.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zoomer tech literacy is on average almost as poor as their actual literacy.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

In my experience, that only applies to the youngest Gen-Z (Zoomers) and Gen-Alpha (Gen-Glass aka Glassholes).

[–] FollowingTheTao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Zoomer here. The problem is really much worse than the meme suggests, and it isn't really a generational gap at all.

The computer power user is a dying breed.

Today's average computer user on windows, macos, or (heaven forbid) chromeos, knows nothing about software. They don't even know what software is. They can't install a program except through an app store. If you ask them which browser they use, they'll probably say "google." Furthermore, many perfectly functional people don't use any computer except their phone.

The tendency toward user-friendly systems is fundamentally a good thing, in my opinion. It has advanced the democratisation of computing and its advantages. But on the flip side, it has left a huge swath of the general public totally reliant on systems they neither control nor understand in the slightest.

I use Arch, btw. I put my own computer together - I bought and assembled the hardware components, I performed a minimal, headless installation of my operating system, and I meticulously scripted every personalisation of my window manager (I use dwm).

To me, computing comes easily, as second nature. I used so many systems from such a young age that I simply intuit the design language of user interfaces, whether I've used them or not. To me, they seem painstakingly designed to make this easy. Yet, because of my computer literacy, I am often called upon as tech support for my family and friends, from zoomers to boomers, and most of them seem like helpless infants when it comes to technology.

This is because the average user doesn't have to know or care what their system really does or how it really works. So, by the path of least resistance, a user learns the bare minimum to get what they want from their system. I'm not sure of anything that could change this reality.

As I said, it's not a bad thing that most of the population can now access the advantages computing delivers. But I do see this state of affairs as brittle and concerning, where people depend utterly on software they don't understand. This is often propriety software made by profit-driven corporations. The average user doesn't know or care that they don't actually control their software - because they don't need to. They don't know or care that their data is being tracked and sold, that their computer will update itself without permission or install programs they can't vet, and that alternatives to this exist.

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[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

I don't know, but in France people got scared by "HADOPI" which was a government organization to find people sharing files, and like they were sending you e-mails if caught! And if caught a second time, BAM a paper letter! Scary! Then I think there was something like cutting your internet, not sure it ever happened.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

I am sure you still have same number of those more advanced users, but now far more people have access to computers because they are cheaper and easier to use. That may be about it.

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