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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. No politics
    • If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
    • A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS

If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.

Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.

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I can't really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by "both" sides of the spectrum. It's just something I find interesting.

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[–] Screwthehole@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Not really meaning for this to sound as arrogant as it's going to, but... Lemmy is almost entirely populated by nerds so far.

Nerds tend to be open to tech, maybe a little smarter overall. You know? You can tell by the grammar, the spelling. It's a different group here.

Reality is left leaning, and the stupider someone is, in general, the more likely they are to lean right politically. The rest of the right are the really rich, who tend to be up the psychological spectrum toward sociopathic, so of course they would have no time for caring for others' needs.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reality is left leaning

I know this was a joke Colbert made, but the truth is the reverse: the left is reality-leaning. It's truly terrifying to see how divorced from reality the right-wing is, and how gleefully they just keep storming in that direction.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's been tons of right-leaning Reddit alternatives before, but they always quickly devolved into Nazi spaces.

Lemmy was the first one that I'm aware of, which told Nazis to fuck off right from the beginning.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

They just have their own instance and are defederated by some but not all, which is the best solution as it means they stick to their part of the fediverse instead of hijacking subs that weren't right leaning in the first place.

[–] BitSound@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's the important bit. The creators of Lemmy needed to be hard leftist to keep it from being taken over by right wingers before it could become popular. Now it's big enough that the community isn't as leftist as the creators, but will still reject turning into another voat.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfettered echo chamber of right wing ideals will always devolve into fascist authoritarian and nazism

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Surprise surprise, echo chambers devolve into more extreme versions of the original views

That's literally just how echo works

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but what is considered to be "Nazi" in this platform? I've seen even socialists being called Nazis

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do not speak for this platform, but what I mean with Nazis here, are people who support the exclusion, inhumane treatment or exploitation of arbitrary groups of people, generally for the Nazi's (perceived) benefit and in spite of basic morals.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what would exclusion, inhumane treatment and exploitation mean? It's key to clearly define the concepts before applying the label to someone, as if they stay undefined everyone can have the label applied

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

Right, so another policy from the early days of Lemmy that I thought was quite vital: No endless discussions on what precisely constitutes Nazi behaviour.

It's truly not hard to not be a Nazi. And if someone is even roughly in the ballpark of being a Nazi, the community as a whole just doesn't care to have that person's input here.

Which is a roundabout way of saying that I do not think, it's relevant to clearly define these terms.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I once got dogpiled in r/lsd of all places for saying employers shouldn't be allowed to drug test for thc. I got swarmed for "being a druggie" in a sub about lsd.

I quit reddit for good not too long after that. What a fucking shithole.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

progression tends not to be conservative

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm afraid future will be conservative nevertheless due to the simple fact that they're the only ones making kids. I'm liberal myself but I don't have kids and will never have so my traits don't pass to the next generations. The conservative neighbours with 7 kids on the other hand..

[–] mindbleach@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Politics being genetic, of course.

What?

[–] DrQuint@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Politics aren't genetic.

But they ARE communal. Where you grow decides 90% of what you believe in.

It's actually why I disagree with the top comment chain that smarter means more left leaning. I think it's more that left leaning communities have better education standards and lead to smarter generations. Cause and effect reversed.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

The ability to propagate the politics depends mightily on the success of the community though. It's sort of the other side of the 'brain drain' principle-- if people have to leave the community for educational or economic opportunity, they're probably not going to be able to reconstruct the same echo chambers.

Even when you see a preserved group within a larger population (think of Chinatowns and Little Italies), they're inherently getting a lot more cultural exchange than back in the home country.

A lot of the most self-destructive policies (neglecting education, running the environment into the ground, skate-where-the-puck-was-in-1972 economic policy) are just begging for decades of brain drain. The kids are going to leave because there's simply nothing there but the Gizzard Extraction Plant, and that got automated in 2032.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

wweeew replies to absolutely nothing?

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it hasn't been overrun by Russian troll farms and AI yet like reddit and facebook

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Left wingers: "The right is full of neo-fascists who want to exploit natural resources, subjugate minorities, project their own pedophilia habits onto us, roll back the clock on women's rights, and are willing to lie, cheat, beg, borrow, and steal to get it all done!"

Right wingers: "The left is ANNOYING!"

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also the left projects and makes shit up constantly. Hell, one of their favorite phrases "dog whistle" means "My opponent did not say X, but I want him to say X, so I'm going to pretend he said X"

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

I find it hilarious how this comment has 11 likes which is pretty decent for the atmosphere here but the user got banned

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

reddit had given into the "work the refs" strategy of the American right wing. That artificially elevated the voices of the right and suppressed the voices of the left. It's actually the case when you look at surveys and voting behaviors that right wing ideas are abysmally unpopular.

So when we're on an actually free platform that doesn't have an "engagement" based algorithm driving anger and division, with no one putting their thumb on the scale (or people who try getting defederated), "leftist" ideas come up.

The confusion reflected in the OP is the obvious outcome of the post Fairness Doctrine "both sides" media landscape. There really aren't as many right wing people as left wing. We are legion.

[–] semigroupoid@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Reddit has banned most right wing subs and clearly has a pro left bias from the top. The userbase was more right wing before most right wing users were pushed off the platform.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think there's a wide range of people on Lemmy too but the extreme right and extreme left have ended up on instances that have been defederated from the main group. So what you're seeing are the sensible, rational people, and in America such people are considered left wing I guess 😉

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

"FR" I need to take a look at the instances because I haven't encountered one yet

[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So was reddit a long long time ago. I watched and felt it shift to the centre then heavily to the right. Conservatives destroy everything in the world. I don't doubt your favourite communitues will start heavily skewing right soon enough. (edit:typo)

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is driven entirely by the moderators. r/Canada got taken over by alt-right moderators which attracted alt-right redditors.

[–] bloopinator@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah but Reddit admins are more than happy to remove mods if they don’t like them.

[–] FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes sense that leftists would be more likely to reject the platform that is centralizing power

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

centralisation of power is not an inherently right or left wing ideal, and some of the largest left wing communities on the fediverse are practically or outright authoritarian

the centralising power thats being opposed being a profit oriented organisation does make it more of a leftist thing, though still not exclusively

[–] FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'd say it is the definitive distriction between left and right. These concepts mean things to me on a vacuum. Show me a "left wing community" that is authoritarian and I'll show you a community that isn't actually leftist.

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

im not really interested in discussing your definition of a scotsman

[–] FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ok but if you want to discuss politics with me in any way, which you seem to want, your need to know what I mean when I say words. Maybe get out of the kitchen?

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe because on reddit you have an absolute fuck ton of right wing propaganda bots.

[–] soviettaters@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't see any specific "propaganda bots", just bots regurgitating anything that was posted

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because they are meant to seem like you're talking to a human. Bot/troll farms are a thing.

[–] Ooops@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, bots aren't a thing alhough a lot of people pretend them to be. Trolls are still either human or very obviously fake.

[–] YourHuckleberry@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hot take: you shouldn't subscribe to an ism.

You know what my political affiliation is? I'm an engineer. You want to solve a problem, you break it apart and fix the broken parts.

Abortion? Sure.

What's the problem? Women are pregnant and they don't wanna be.

Well how'd they get pregnant? They had unprotected sex, or they got raped(including all kinds here). Teach people how to use birth control and make it easy to get. Teach men about consent. Fund sex crime policing.

That takes care of the input side of the equation. What's next? Oh yeah, they don't wanna be pregnant. Why not? Because it could kill them, or wreck thier bodies. OK, well let's fund research and support for maternal mortality issues (including post-partum). If a pregnancy is likely to kill a woman (like double the normal mortality rate) she should be allowed to abort, even if she's not in immediate danger. You can't force somebody to risk their life.

Any other reasons? Because the fetus is severely deformed and will die in pain if allowed to make it to full term? Abortion, no question. Honestly any other position on this one is fucked up. I'm sure of very little when it comes to God, but I'm sure it doesn't want preventable suffering.

What else? Families can't afford a kid? Free high quality childcare for everyone. Free healthcare for kids and post-partum mothers (probably for everyone but that's a different topic).

What about adoption? Well, as they say, adoption is the answer to a different question. Just to cover all cases though, let's fund high-quality adoption services, including counseling for the birth mother for as long as she needs.

How do we pay for it all? Taxes. Taxes are good for society. Shut the fuck up and pony up your fair share. If you use our stuff, eat our food, drink our clean water, taxes are what you owe.

These are just off the top of my head. The real answers are probably way more complicated, but it's going to take work to figure it all out. This is how you fix a problem though. Lots of hard work to understand the whole thing, soup to nuts, and then you fix it all.

Does that make me a leftist?

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Even Donald Duck doesnt subscribe to the abortion ban

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

I like your thinking.

I think unwanted children are the worst. lets put aside that the family won't be happy. It's these children that will cause trouble, populate prisons. They'll be an absolute drag on society. It's not even they're fault. Growing up without love is tough

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just described steps that would actually reduce abortion by quite a lot, without making it illegal at all. The sex ed and contraception stuff is basically exactly how it's done in other western countries that don't have nearly the issue with teen pregnancies we do. What you're proposing is practical and effective.

And in the eyes of the MAGA crowd, you're not just a leftist, you're a baby-murdering, Satan-worshipping communist America-hater.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

I'm European. Do you think the American teens getting pregnant are actually surprised? That just seems inconceivable (pun not intended) to me.

[–] sol@thelemmy.club 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Left and right are two stupid categories built up by propaganda, get them out of your head and start to think on your own terms

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, it's a fairly good way to differentiate between collectivist and individualistic ideas.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a whopping two sides of a scale, which doesn't unambiguously refer to "individualism" or "collectivism", also referring vaguely to associations with dozens of other issues. So it's actually a worse way of describing those ideas than saying "individualist" or "collectivist", because you're no longer even specifically saying that. And "individualist" vs. "collectivist" is already a terrible way to categorize all political ideas. What does abortion have to do with collectivism? How about zoning laws, or environmental protection?

This is the issue...left vs. right has nothing to do with any one issue, in fact it actually serves completely to distract people from the specifics of issues, because instead of actually figuring out the nuance of something, people fall back on their group identity and go, "well if the leftists hate it, then it must be good, because fuck the left!"

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

Environmental protection is collectivist. It's what is best for everyone. (Including future generations).

But abortion is a good exception.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When discussing the whole space of possible political views, there is no "both sides". There are seven zillion different axes on seven zillion different issues, some of them concrete ("should we forbid chemical companies from manufacturing neonicotinoid pesticides?") and some abstract ("what is the best relationship between individual creativity, the marketplace, and the state?").

"Both sides" (polarized duality) is partly an artifact of specific electoral systems. It can lead to people shooting at each other over tiny differences in doctrine — or, even more often, over which leader to follow this year.

[–] nx2@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

Also: for example both US parties would be considered as a (far) right party here in Germany

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