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The effects of the ban are likely to hit the front lines in Ukraine as well, where both Kyiv and Moscow's troops have been seen using Discord to coordinate drone operations.

Several videos posted online have shown uniformed men watching surveillance drone feeds on the platform, including one clip said to have captured the interior of a command post in Bakhmut.

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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's pretty wild to think they took this long to prohibit using US-based software for such sensitive information

[–] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe it took this long to develop an alternative. They now have an alternative... Right? The Kremlin wouldn't send it's citizens off to fight without being sufficiently equipped... Right?

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They still have those wire phones with a hand crank.

Maybe Putins buddies have stocks in the wire industry.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

They still have those wire phones with a hand crank.

Good, because I don't care how nice their soup cans are, there's no way a string would be able to stay taut between Moscow and Donetsk.

[–] Prizephitah@feddit.nu 7 points 1 month ago

Relaying sensitive information over your own wires are a lot more secure then a privately owned service from a foreign country. It’s just a lot more cumbersome.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

You know there's phones that don't need a crank? The voice itself can be used to power the transmission. Its actually brilliant tech for a situation like this

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They have tin cans and string. So they're all set.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Don't forget... the cans come full of potatoes so that's like two tools in one!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

No, no. Its a tape recorder duct taped to a drone that carries messages back and forth like a carrier pidgin

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i mean they could just really easily host a matrix instance or something

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

You do much video streaming on matrix? That's what they were using discord for.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, Russian military. I know a company in Hungary that sells pagers and walkie-talkies in bulk to facilitate communication.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm more appalled by the fact that the Russian military was apparently able to use discord as a weapon of war to facilitate their unprovoked war of agression and killing Ukranians. Discord should take a long hard look at what other stuff happens on their platform.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Discord should take a long hard look at what other stuff happens on their platform.

Discord surely does, as surely does the government of the land which hosts their infrastructure.

If Discord hasn't been asked/told to block Russia from their side, there is a reason.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I take a far grimmer look on things. If text and image platforms have issues moderating, I'd imagine discord is more difficult and thus worse. They probably monitor for stuff that is detrimental to their service and that's it. For the rest they rely on reports.

And about being asked to keep up by governments, I again am inclined to not think anyone did. Why would they.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You mean the underage "dating" servers?

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe Discord allows it so they can monitor it.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so much for second best army in the world

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

*Second best army in Ukraine.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Second best army in Russia

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point probably the third best army in Russia, wasn't there reports of North Korean soldiers on the front lines?

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

4th the daily mail was on the front lines for a short stint

[–] vinniep@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

*Second best army in Russia

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

Why doesn't Russia just use the Russian state-sponsored communication platform?

What do you mean 80 year old radios keyed to commercial bands aren't adequate in 2024?!?!

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is absolutely bizarre and a disgrace to the Russian military that this was even a thing. Like, Russia has complete in-house comm systems, all the way down to the silicon. They're as elegant as charcoal clothing iron, but at least they're secure. In fact, they're so paranoid about NSA plants that they even force businesses to use in-house encryption to submit accounting reports. And then the same idiots allow risking lives of officers by using random software in a command center...

Though I feel like the response is also far from best. There are numerous alternatives they can switch to, so the ban is mostly going to only hit innocent gamers. It'd be much more impactful if they just silently handed access to those channels over to Ukrainians.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They forgot to do the availability part of the CIA triad.

IIRC they were already using cellphones on day one because everything else was almost immediately jammed lol.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Is nobody in the world capable of forwarding encrypted RTP packets besides Discord? Seriously we had VOIP figured out before we had internet Figured out I don’t think we have to forwards all our communication through adversarial governments to communicate locally.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There can't seriously be respectable, noteworthy people in Russia saying that banning Discord is a mistake because it helps the Russian military. That's bizzaro world stuff even for them.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago