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[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 100 points 1 month ago (2 children)

These assholes can't seem to grasp that emulation is the only reason their old games are still popular.

[–] Krakaval@jlai.lu 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they don’t care, do they ? It’s better for them if you stop playing the old game and buy the 1234th remake of Mario at full price on Switch

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

They don't do that. They have re-releases that are available for purchase for a month before they're gone, and then they rent you the old emulated games forever, on worse emulators, with no option to buy them.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Particularly with the modding scene. You can't exactly do a randomiser with the cartridge.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck Nintendo. I refuse to buy any of their games anymore. If its something I want to play, I will pirate instead.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just bought a Wii and a 3DS a year or two ago for the first time. CFW on both of them and packed them full of games. Had a blast.

In ten years I'll probably do the same with the switch.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

There is already a r4 for switch I think

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is Nintendo trying to get people to not buy their games?

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They want to run their fanbase away, yes

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's working, my desire to buy nintendo games is going down with every piece of news that comes out about them

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Copying Nintendo games isn't only ethical; it's a moral obligation.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

They have succeeded with me, fuck Nintendo

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If they are, it unfortunately isn't working very well

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They succeeded with me for the rest of this gen in March this year after killing Yuzu. I was originally going to wait to hack my Switch until the Switch 2 was released, but I went ahead and did it then.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is absolutely shocking to me how long it is taking for fans to turn on Nintendo. They've done this hardcore corpo shit for years. They should have a public image far worse than EA by now.

The nostalgic love runs deep, I guess.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

raises hand

As an owner of hundreds of Nintendo pieces from arcade to Switch... I've turned.

Original console or RPi3 with Lakka for classics on the Sony Trinitron, and GOG or Steam on Linux for anything new.

[–] mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look into a MiSTer FPGA. It's way better than a pi (latency!) for everything up to ps1/n64/Saturn

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don't remind me. I need a PVM to go with it. 😅 Although, I actually like the 240p composite video on the Trinitron TV, it looks exactly like it did back-in-the-day and indistiguishable from the real consoles' composite output.

The Lakka image I'm using is well-tuned with noticably less lag than some Pi setups I've seen. Interested Pi owners can find it here.

I can't find it, but someone has been collecting stats on input lag for many different USB gamepads/controllers as well.

I was shocked at how badly I was playing Symphony of the Night on a PS Vita TV with a DualShock 4... it turned out to be the input lag... of an real Sony controller on a real Sony console. Connect it by USB cable - noticable lag went away. 🤬

[–] mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, with a 4k TV and a MiSTer, you can do some amazing things with shadowmasks and scanline filters, it looks good. And still, very very little latency (I can beat Tyson in Punch Out on an LCD display, no issues – try that on Lakka)

[–] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You will run the games on our extremely specific hardware using our proprietary software environment and you will like it!

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, I don't think that I will.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you explain what I'm looking at? I've had a switch sitting around for a few years(?) I wanna say and haven't done shit with it cause games are so expensive. But id like to use it rather than let it collect dust

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's hekate, the program used to launch atmosphere, the cfw for Switch. If you have a Switch from the first year or so of when they came out, it's software moddable with just a jig, otherwise you have to do soldering and the like.

[–] Owljfien@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

It wouldn't be so bad if their hardware wasn't underpowered dogshit. But it is, so fuck them doubly so

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Retro Game Corps is the targeted channel in this video. He doesn't focus on piracy of games at all. Mostly he does reviews of hardware and has some high effort videos.

[–] windowsphoneguy 10 points 1 month ago

Yep, no endorsement of piracy whatsoever. Just showing how to set up emus.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

He did make passing reference to the Migswitch which is why Nintendo is big mad.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've never been much of a Nintendo fan, but news like this makes me want to get into using Nintendo emulators.

[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bad news everyone! They've already shutdown the best emulators. One if the best ceased development yesterday after some Nintendo strong-arming.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

"Let the old games DIE!"

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't even understand how this would be illegal. How is copyright being violated here? You aren't supposed to be able to file a frivolous DMCA.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Easy. YouTube doesn't want to deal with actual DMCA more than they have to, so they have their own system that lets big companies do whatever they want, whether the content is legal or not.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Most people don't actually understand how copyright works. And the actual right that's restricted is quite ridiculous but it is how it is...

Copyright is not a right given to the copyright holder, unlike every other right in law. Copyright is a exclusion placed on every other human being on earth from reproducing what you did (except few countries that didn't sign it but practically no one lives there or is a territory that effectively works under another sovereignty which does). This distinction is very important. That is, everytime something is created, every other human now has less freedom since they could do that thing before but no longer can. So if I create an original bunny like character, that is copyrighted to me. But I could always depict that and so could you--had you thought of it. But now you no longer can.

This means that virtually every thing made in relation to that original copyright becomes illegal unless you get permission from the copyright holder. There are exceptions such as transformative, parody, fair use, etc but I'll not get into that for now.

In other words specific to this case, every game footage on earth is illegal. But they only continue to exist by the grace of the companies not telling them to take it down. Some companies actually write into their EULA/terms that fan content, etc may be allowed, but again, those are the exceptions. The rule of law is that everything is illegal to start. And that only the copyright holder and its agents be able to request a punishment for breaking the law.

It's a system where it makes every normal human beings into a law breaking entity first and by doing so, it allows the copyright holder to punish anyone they see fit.

This is not a frivolous DMCA. And even if it was, there has been no case where that was ever punished. Even outright perjury for DMCA--which I've dealt with thousands of times doesn't actually get punished in practise.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Copyright is long past the point where lawyers and lawmakers need a good swift kick in the head as a reality check for thinking any of this is acceptable or deserving of merit.

[–] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I wish more people were aware of and as vocally critical of copyright laws as you.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I had some vague idea that it was bad, but holy shit...

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Emulation is the only reason I still talk about or recommend Nintendo games

[–] TVA@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 month ago

Hell, emulation is a lot of what I use my switch for!

I also own all of the Switch games I play on Switch, but Nintendo digital purchases are a no-go for me since they'll eventually turn off the servers, so I only buy physical and only play them once they've been ripped.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Nintendo with that big corpo energy

[–] a_baby_duck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The device in the thumbnail is the Ayaneo Flip DS, for anyone else wondering. From a quick search, it runs Windows and is stupid expensive.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Never give Nintendo money.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Booooo....

If anyone pointed me towards a thing that helped me run things on steam deck, that would be neat.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago
[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Glad I hacked my switch before Nintendo all went to shit. I am done buying Nintendo products. (To be fair I will never have time to get through my back log anyway)

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Emulation is the only reason I ever was a nintendo fan at all. I despised consoles for everything they stood for. Stripped down computers with a very shitty shelf life, and now paying for your own internet twice??? I used to emulate a lot and jumped on the delusion bandwagon that nintendo is good, which led me to beg my parents to buy me a wii and later a switch on launch day. Now that their games are also kinda shit, there's very little insensitive anyways. Fuck nintendo.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

Man, I know that clamshell Ayaneo is too expensive and that form factor isn't as good as I think it is... but I still really want one.

Oh, hey, is that you, Barbra?

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Oh no, poor zetaplays! I love that guy

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 1 month ago

I would say the answer to avoid any of this would be to use homebrew games but I don't know if ones for harder systems to emulate (GameCube, PS2, etc) would be great for testing handheld emulators

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

This is not even remotely new.