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Here and Here for sources that back up the claims made in this tweet. Additional source for backing up the number of journalists killed in the Vietnam war

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel bombed a press squad last week with all the right equipment and a clearly marked press sign on vehicle near the Lebanese border. There were no other people near them.

The IDF terrorists could easily see from their drone that they were journalists. Yet they still bombed them. These are israeli terror attacks hoping to deter journalist from covering their war crimes.

https://youtu.be/RIymozNfp4U?si=XPaurLdJgkO1VhC_

Also this one nearly missing a squad of journalists is very a clearly Targeted IDF terror attack.

https://youtu.be/tjtoslFkPm8?si=V_5LG-GcmJ3cTKz3

[–] pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh no Israel are the good guys. They told me so.

[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. And those journalists were probably out to make Israel look bad by using facts.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The WWII number is ridiculous - are they saying that among the millions of civilians that died, there were only 69 journalists?

The Vietnam number isn't right either - it counts only journalists on the American side.

Generally when you see someone claim that anything is worse than WWII, they're not telling the truth. Even the Hamas attack wasn't as bad as a normal day during that war.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Journalists being killed almost certainly refers to journalists actively reporting on the war, embedded in units, the ones with passes. They are actively linked to orgs so when they die they're accounted for as a killed journalist.

I think including every single death of a civilian who happened to be a journalist but wasn't working as one would be too literal an interpretation.

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t find any source for the numbers from Vietnam and WW2 in the linked sources.

[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The sources for Vietnam and WW2 are in the second link. It should be noted that nowadays there's much more journalists than ever before. Unlike WW2 and Vietnam journalists were able to avoid areas of potential conflict more easily rather than in Gaza where Israels approach of bombing the shit out of the small strip of land has meant there virtually no place where a journalist reporting on their actions can safely do so.

Also I added a third source to the post which corroborates the Vietnam estimate.

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I highly, highly doubt the numbers for WW2 are even remotely accurate. There is no source in the article.

Quickly searching online reveals at least 48 dead mostly American and/or English journalists, although quite a few deaths cannot be considered war crimes even today - being aboard a bomber makes you a valid target I believe.

Besides, where's the number of killed axis journalists? Surely in Hiroshima there were a few dozen journalists, don't you think?