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[–] Mikina@programming.dev 11 points 20 hours ago

it's also important to keep in mind that the cybersecurity field has adbanced tremendously, with cloidfare, EDRs, and in general it is now way harder to do anything anonymously without getting caught, quickly. This also males the field of hacking way more difficult to get in, which combined with reduced attention span of younger generations probably means there's not that many bored teens willing to put the time in, and as an adult you have way much more to loose, so for hose who had the skills it would be a lot greater risk.

[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not gonna dig through their Twitter feed, but I saw someone a couple months ago ask them this exact question on one of their posts, and they wrote a pretty interesting response. They basically said, we're still here, trying to fuck the system up, but, with all the information we've provided and ported out there to the world, y'all haven't done dick with it. Laws haven't been passed, politicians haven't been ousted, corporations are still abusing the systems. So they were basically saying, what good is them leaking and hacking if the public doesn't take a more activist approach towards change themselves and hold the people they expose accountable.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well if I knew how to take down sites and child porn site I totally would. Just don't know what to study and probably don't want to be another computer cracker using programs found online.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If you're serious, study cyber security to start.

Then move towards devops.

Worse case scenario, you'll end up in a 6-figure job making complaints into the void as you write bash scripts to speed up a pipeline by 0.1 second.

Best case scenario, you take down a massive criminal ring that sprouts back up like a weed a few days later.

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

They are waiting for a tangible response, and building.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

A meme that comes quickly, goes quickly.

It's not an actual organised group, if you didn't know. Anyone can hack something and then say "Done by Anonymous".

[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 day ago

And anyone that performs any successful hack, can also declare themselves as part of Anonymous.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they basically got put out of business by cloudflare

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The loic nerds yeah. There's still a few anons who can actually do shit, probably.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

doxing work is very boring. much of it is thousands of hours sifting through the lamest social media content you can imagine.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 101 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Angry and nihilistic teenagers used to have tech skills and laptops. Now they have iPads and TikTok.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago

mr body massage

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder how true that is. Curious to know

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I actually teach teenagers programming and 3D modelling. The past 5 years has been the first decline in tech literacy I've ever experienced between generations. My personal theory is that only the gamers actually have computers at home now. Everyone else only use their smartphones, and that only gives a negligible increase in tech literacy compared to using a computer.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes, computers in their various forms are now so user friendly (and often locked down, because fuck you) that you don't learn much using them. The golden age for learning tech on the fly seems to have been 1990-2010 or so, because computers were both accessible and still had exposed inner logic.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've drastically simplified and made tech accessible to everyone with a smartphone, you no longer need computer skills to get on the internet to shop or participate in social activities. Kids use apps' platforms for the things we had to build and host ourselves 20y ago.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I was alive back then where you guys had to build everything yourself. Go on irc and stuff. Sounds cool

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I've recently switched to Linux (I use arch btw) and it feels like I'm living the early days of the ever expanding internet again.

Probably helps that I had to join IRC again for support, instead of Discord.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

Yeah same I also use Arch (btw) and even though I've never had the pleasure of experiencing the Internet renaissance, the community feels something like that with all its nerdiness and geekiness.

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

As a angry, nihilistic teenager: very fucking true. I am literally the only techy guy in my posh bullshit private international school (in Europe so affordable). The only other dude who uses Linux (I'm using that as a bare minimum for "techy") isn't into programming or reverse engineering shit even remotely. I'm all alone (apart from all my non-technical friends). I suppose that's where the nihilism comes from...

[–] occultist8128@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago

how is this so true lol

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 207 points 2 days ago (15 children)

A lot of the actual, serious ones that knew what they were doing got caught. Some went to lulsec to be jerks with no agenda and were caught by the Feds. All that was left were script kiddies that downloaded the Low Orbit Ion Cannon and used scripts they find online. Then they left or were overtaken by alt right idiots.

The original Anonymous are in their 30s and 40s by now. Everyone ages out.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 199 points 2 days ago (4 children)

90s script kiddie here - a bunch of the shit you can do as a minor with low/no consequences becomes SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS as an adult with assets. It's just not worth the risk to keep dicking around with things that might land you in prison or cost you everything you have.

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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 36 points 2 days ago

I think the serious ones that didn’t get caught are now working in red team penetration testing, which is an industry that’s been growing exponentially since the years Anonymous did a lot of their big stuff

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[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shutting down porn sites? Is that a thing they wanted to achieve? Like free video sites like PH or production companies like Brazzers?

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ment to type child porn sites.-

[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can edit the main post you know.

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, turn my question will look stupid!

[–] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anonymous basically became a US intelligence front around the Arab Spring.

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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

β€œThey” got over it, as most people do, and moved on. Remnants still remain, but they were unified due to a critical mass of dissent.

Don’t expect to see anything like it again until another critical inflection point. Just know that, if you do, shit’s prolly in a bad place…so…

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, things are pretty peachy in the world right now.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They fizzled out, members probably moved on to various other groups and projects, while the rest simply went on with their lives. A danger of being decentralized is losing all of your momentum.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A danger of being decentralized is losing all of your momentum.

fediverse growth nervously sweats

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hacking got harder, and the enforced penalties for getting caught became a lot more severe (in the west at least). This meant that most hackers aren't doing it for luls but for serious business.

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