Well let's see if it is worth it or if I go back to debian.
That's not a meme
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Correct. But I thought Nixos is a meme by itself. And it fits this community better than the Linux one
I would post it there, this will likely get removed in a few hours :D
I 💜 NixOS
I will give it an honest try but so far I am upset by the software not working as expected.
And hell your documentation is lacking.
There is a single software center currently in beta to install software with gui. And the nix-env version does work well actually but the configuration.nix install is hardly documented and not intuitive.
You need to think about NixOS backwards. It's like learning a new operating system. It's extremely stable, hell it won't let you update if something breaks, but it does feel like whac a mole at times
I could fix most of my issues by purging kde settings. And fixing the ownership of the home folder.
I could get working iscsi. And now I think I am happy with what is working. Screen tearing is a bit of a issue thanks to Nvidia and my 2 monitor setup, but it isn't as bad as on other oses.
And the nix-env version does work well actually
Nice. The only usable tool is using non unique naming.
Please use it for at least one week, as it's a learning experience and not meant for everyone. It took me around a week to become familiar with Nix and Flakes, but I believe it was worth it since now I have to tweak things less often and my configuration's decently organized.
Also try out Home Manager
I will. I could already fall in love with it I think.
Still some minor issues but for example I installed timeshift and wanted to set up a root backup when it hit me: i don't need that on nixos XD.
The only thing I still need to figure out is how do I automatically backup my nix configuration. But maybe sth. Like Dropbox will do.
I don't want to publish it to git unsanitzed.
I don’t want to publish it to git unsanitzed.
You could make a private repo and set up an SSH key to access it. For example, I have my dotfiles hosted on Codeberg but it's a private repo so only I have access to it (although I would not recommend putting unencrypted passwords, even in a private repository)
Although I understand if you mean not publishing to GitHub as I guess there has been some controversy and it's owned by Microsoft.
Well I just don't want to know everybody what software I have. Nobody needs know that I have installed furry sex with Hitler.
Have you used it with Debian? Much better that way IMO
Gonna try that next. Probably. Nixos isn't really working if I don't know how to do stuff.
For example I can't change settings in vlc because it is read only.
It's a whole different story when it's just a package manager and not a distro. I made this comment to help people get started.
I'd only use nixos if there was a specific reason. Otherwise it's too much trouble for practically no benefits.
The benefit would be: changing stuff doesn't break it. And if it does you can easily roll back. Keeping the config file sets up a new installation like the old one without trouble. Somehow I don't think you really need it if you aren't distro hopping but I need it way too much.
Currently the trade offs are too big I think. Programs don't work because of the atomic behaviour.
And the learning curve is steep even for Linux veterans.
You don't need nixos for that. The only thing you lose is rolling back system configuration, unless you use system-manager.
Unless you're doing scientific computing, or being a sysadmin for a company, you don't actually need nixos. It's at that scale that system reproducibility becomes important enough to offset the downsides. For everyone else, home-manager and a list of packages are more than enough.
The learning curve is not that bad, it's just that the resources are a pile of burning garbage.
Also, idk what you're doing with VLC, but ~/.config should still work AFAIK.
I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error.
I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything.
Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved.
And that shit should only be saved in the home folder.
I think I have to clean my home folder.
But then I have to do the setup of plasma again.
Damn, that sucks.
I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience.
The concept is a great idea.
The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow.
Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about.
Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory.
However I still don't know how to iscsi.
Try bazzite.
Mhh fedora.
I liked it and I liked nobara.
However I liked debian more somehow.
But I could consider going back for his.
So just for fun I'll document how everything goes.
Making a new user with fresh home folder fixed most of my issues.
I managed to get iscsi working.
Vlc settings can be changed in the new home folder too, but for some reason this vlc version shows ssa subtitles wrong. Probably not nixos fault.
I just took my first dip into it recently, and so far I'm really liking it. Doing almost everything from a single config file is awesome. I've had to google a lot of solutions, but every time, the answer was "add this line to your config file and rebuild." That's it.
I like the idea. And since I am breaking my system on a regular basis I love the possibility to go back or not break it in the first place. However I noticed some issues.
Iscsi isn't working since the program can't change specific files. Vlc settings can't be changed and sth is wrong with the default ones.
Nixos makes things write only that shouldn't be or there's missing an option to make a new version by changing the file.