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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You cant steal data. violating copyright (Which ai training does not do) is not theft.

[–] DrElementary@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

violating copywright (Which ai training does not do) I would say that's still very much up for debate, legally and morally

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

At the risk of being pedantic, I should point out that morality doesn't come into the question. Copyright is a matter of law, and nothing else. Personally, I don't consider it a legitimate institution; the immorality is how companies wield it like a cudgel to entrench their control over culture.

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[–] elias_griffin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So Mustafa steals from the entire world and justifies it by pointing to an abstraction that cannot be proven. It's already complete as they can admit it now and throw Billions at corrupt judges over a decade which will be too late.

These tech-god pyschopaths hate us.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Man this is fucking asinine. No one hates you. Certainly not the actual researchers and engineers building these products.

Capitalism fucks over everyone who's not immediately useful. AI is just modelling algorithms after neurons and discovering that that lets us solve a whole new class of fuzzy pattern matching problems.

The two of them together promises to fuck us over even more because that was one of the main things that we used to be better than computers at, but the solution is not remove the new technology from the equation, it's to remove the old and broken system of resource allocation that has and continues to fuck us no matter what.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Microsoft AI boss Mustafa Suleyman incorrectly believes that the moment you publish anything on the open web, it becomes “freeware” that anyone can freely copy and use.

When CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin asked him whether “AI companies have effectively stolen the world’s IP,” he said:

That certainly hasn’t kept many AI companies from claiming that training on copyrighted content is “fair use,” but most haven’t been as brazen as Suleyman when talking about it.

Speaking of brazen, he’s got a choice quote about the purpose of humanity shortly after his “fair use” remark:

Suleyman does seem to think there’s something to the robots.txt idea — that specifying which bots can’t scrape a particular website within a text file might keep people from taking its content.

Disclosure: Vox Media, The Verge’s parent company, has a technology and content deal with OpenAI.


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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Look, guys! The TLDR bot is stealing!

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

That's funny, so do I.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Hey ChatGPT , download “The Boys” for me.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The web isn't open because we have to pay to access it.

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