I can't speak for all of Caucasia but I'm not offended.
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I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, "if you're offended, lighten the fuck up, honky."
He got it wrong though. The shirt should says "CRACKERS".
Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.
Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.
Also not offended by this.
You would be if they had stolen your home and pranced around in a caricature costume of you through the stadium they built after bulldozing your land
Yes, but that's the point. They didn't do that to white people, so white people are in no position to be offended. Including me. Which is why I'm not only not offended, but find that highly appropriate.
What is happening when white people are like "I'm not offended by this" is to minimize the offense that native Americans feel about the same thing.
As if to say "I'm not offended, why are they?"
Me either, but it's actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.
The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.
Except redskins is offensive. It's not the name of a group of people, it's an epithet describing them.
New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren’t offended by Redskins name
It's offensive to gen z victim mentality complex people who want to define themselves through misery.
Were you going to show us this poll or were you just going to expect us to believe that quote of yours isn't one you just made up?
I like to omit the source sometimes just to draw out lazy comments like yours. It really shows that you're not that interested but just want to argue. It's the title of an article from one of the most prominent newspapers out there, it'd be the first result if you simply pasted it in Google, but rather than save yourself the embarrassment, you chose this route.
Swing and a miss.
The article is even better than the title.
Among the Native Americans reached over a five-month period ending in April, more than 7 in 10 said they did not feel the word “Redskin” was disrespectful to Indians. An even higher number — 8 in 10 — said they would not be offended if a non-native called them that name.
Sorry, it's not my job to find out whether or not you're lying.
This is not about whether I'm lying or not, it's about you preferring to stay ignorant, which proves the point that you don't really care about the subject. If you want to close your eyes and pretend it's nighttime, then it's not my job to convince you otherwise.
Got it. You were lying.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep the illusion going. 🤡
I don't know what illusion you are talking about. I know about a delusion. Specifically the delusion that you have where you expect everyone to just believe anything you declare.
You know Google exists right? Or do you only ever expect to be spoon fed knowledge like a child?
Insulting me won't make your lies true. Sorry. And I'm not going to talk to you in two separate threads, so pick one.
Being wilfully ignorant won't make you any more intelligent.
If you don't want to argue in two threads don't be stupid in so many places.
Is this the conversation thread you wish to continue with?
No, it's how educating yourself despite the other person works. I was right, you expect to be spoon fed knowledge like a school age child. You know they teach you how to research in grade school and it doesn't involve begging for sources.
Your choice.
Papaya.
See? Proof of your wilful disdain for knowledge.
Papaya.
Yes, you have lot the argument and have no more valid responses, we know.
What's wrong, did your stupidity run out of steam?
Yes, you have lot the argument and have no more valid responses, we know.
I don't expect people to believe anything I say, I do expect the average adult to not act like a man-baby in a normal conversation. I admit that sometimes bites me in the ass, but I prefer that over willful ignorance.
The article is still there by the way, I bet you've already figured that out but aren't big enough to admit.
When you're trying to educate yourself that's exactly your job.
Nope. That's not how the burden of proof works.
Should go harder IMHO. This ad from the National Congress of American Indians does a good job.
Yeah the only issue here is "Caucasians" is roughly similar in emotional weight to "native Americans."
Shirt should say like, "crackers" or something
Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don't know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it's a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?
I very much like Mayo Monkies myself lol
Eh.. folks from County Mayo might feel unfairly singled out.
I would have thought that if redskins is the settler pejorative for native americans then Paleface (or the like) is the thematic riposte.
Cracker doesn't even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn't carry much weight for the people it should.
Source: I'm literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I'm talking about just don't care.
I'm all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named "Steve." It's just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is "Hi, I'm Steve, nice to meet you."
When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant "Hi, I'm Steve." The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.