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Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

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Vegan Society response to Covid-19 vaccine (www.vegansociety.com)

submitted 2 months ago by MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org to c/vegan@vegantheoryclub.org

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It has never been more important for us to talk about the definition of veganism in the context of medications, including vaccines. The definition of veganism recognises that it is not always possible or practicable for vegans to avoid participating in animal use, which is particularly relevant to medical situations. In the case of Covid-19, vaccination is playing a fundamental role in tackling the pandemic and saving lives. As there is currently a legal requirement that all vaccines are tested on animals, at this point in time it is impossible to have a vaccine that has been created without animal use.

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[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 months ago

I agree with their stance. I also have to take non-vegan medicine where there is no vegan alternative. This is out of my scope and practice and don't think it lessens my opinions against animal testing and abuse. I hope one day, preferably sooner than later, the medical industries stop relying on animal abuse for medicine testing.

[–] MsSprouts@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Quebec had the medicago covid vaccine made from plants but then they shut down the program 😭

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[+] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You must not be able to read or have low reading comprehension and should try re-reading. It directly says that it isn't practicable for vegans to avoid vaccines, to look out for your health and for others and that this is outside the scope of vegan ethics. OP actually copied one of the relevant paragraphs.

They still advocate for safer and more effective non animal testing versions medical modeling for approval. Forcing vegans to take something that was animal tested is a fucked up thing to do when there are other ways of proving efficacy of the drugs without torturing animals.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The "as far as is practicable and possible" caveat in The Vegan Society's definition of veganism is a scary thing for carnists to contend with (if they're even aware of it at all) because it removes any potential justification for them to not be vegan. So it's easier for them to just call vegans anti-vax so they can continue feeling safe in their carnism.

And for any carnists that are eager to read that in bad-faith:

Vaccines are good. Animal exploitation is bad. It is possible to produce vaccines that don't rely on animal exploitation. Therefore, most vegans advocate for producing vaccines that are not made by exploiting animals, but since it's not practicable and possible for most people to get vaccines that aren't produced with animal exploitation, we work with what we have and get vaccinated anyway until better vaccines are available.