xkcd

Yeah but petrol cars go brum brum

Gas engine makes good noises. Checkmate.

What interests me is the terror threshold. People are just so much more, including me, afraid of electric motors vs ICE per kw.

Yeah they're great. Just gotta pull out a diesel generator to charge them when it's minus 40

It's about the battery, nerd. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

I'll keep my ICE and ride a bike. I'll still do less environmental damage than you because I am human powered for all but the trips to the mountains, and then I don't have to worry about being stranded without a plug.

And I have yet to hear a convincing argument that taking my perfectly working vehicle off the road to buy another manufactured product is still more environmentally friendly than... not buying anything at all.

I don't give a fuck about initial torque. I'm going to be laughing in my wheetabix when there's not a single EV older than a decade on their original batteries.

Downvotes don't make me wrong, chuds.

Gas engines smell good 🥰

so my sisters Mazda MX-30 has more HP than my uncles Peterbilt 389? cool, I'll use it to haul my horse trailer. define "more powerful". Makes the point but XKCD usually does better.

It's true. But a v-twin motorcycle like a Ducati or Moto Guzzi ignites your balls like no electric motor can.

Extremely rare XKCD L

Edit: downvote me all you want, it won't make electric cars charge any faster, have any more range, be any more affordable, work any better in the cold, or be any more fixable by their owners.

He is not wrong, but he is not adressing the actual criticism of electric vehicles, so it is kind of pointless.

Cool but they sound like shit. No aesthetics in evs. You don't feel connected to the car. Don't feel the engagement. But hey, cars are all about stats, right, right??

Edit: ok so I get downvoted for having a differing opinion from the majority of Lemmy users here. I'm wrong in saying that EV engines sound like shit?PLEASE one downvoter, explain to me how such a statement deserves a downvote?

Majority of you probably just use your car as a means of transportation. I don't. I also drive to have fun. That's also why I never drive automatic as it is (to me) more engaging and challenging with a manual gear box. Let me give you another example: weight. EVs are heavy, always. I don't like heavily cars because I don't find them enjoyable to drive on small roads.

Please understand that there is more to the world of cars than numbers.

Because "better overall" is a silly concept to use here, and is bring deliberately done to "both sides" the debate.

For driving really fast: petrol

For not killing our planets ability to sustain himan life: electric

Its not that hard

Gas engines have decent range. Gas engines are cheaper (as the electric engine prices are artificially inflated, just look at Chinese prices), with gas engines you can listen to the sound of the engine to diagnose problems before they occur, batteries don't degrade (you still have car batteries, but when they degrade, you can still drive a car for as long as with the new battery. You can refuel it in a couple of seconds. Anyone can make one sided arguments. There isn't a best thing for everything.