Where we meme (joking in tone and detail, serious in sentiment) about General Sherman, the Civil War, and how the secesh traitors had it coming.
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No bigotry. The Union, or at least the part of the Union WE support, fought AGAINST that shite. We are anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobic, anti-transphobic, and in general anti-bigot here, even if not all the lads in Union blue uniforms were.
No Confederate sympathizing. Anti-democratic racist slaver traitors don't deserve shit.
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Several weeks ago, I saw a guy riding a motorcycle with the American flag flying from the back of his bike and the confederate flag sewn on the back of his jacket. I do not live anywhere near a southern state.
I can't fathom the amount of mental gymnastics it takes to proudly fly the flags of two opposing parties in a major war and still somehow believe it represents your views.
I kinda feel like the American flag itself has taken on connotations that align with the confederate flag.
When I see the American flag in current times, I think of roll coal 'murka fuck yeah sentiments.
Yeah, sadly, any time I see an American flag that isn't on a pole I know without asking what kind of people are displaying it.
That's the strategy-- they're co-opting it. Don't let them.
Fuck yeah. Bleed red white and blue baby! That's our fuckin flag!
I think of it like any expression of non-oppressed identity.
It's perfectly fine to be proud of a non-oppressed identity, as long as it's not something ridiculous or harmful. But the people who feel the need to shout it from the rooftops are often the worst possible representatives of that identity.
Cyclist here! American flags protect you from getting run off the road. I'm serious. My hypothesis is that Jimbos hate woke cyclists unless they stand with 'Murica.
When I see the American flag, I see people proud of shit they had nothing to do with personally. It's no different than sports teams gear at this point.
There are Canadians that proudly fly the confederate flag too. Olympic level mental gymnastics
If I remember right, the rich confederates hid their wealth during the war in banks in Montreal. There were definitely Canadians who were allies with them.
What's wilder is seeing the Confederate flag well outside the USA. I was just in the eastern part of Germany for a wedding, near-ish to Leipzig, and at the venue one of the employees had a Confederate flag plastered on the back of his van.
What absolute fucking lunacy. Especially since German states of the period were generally pro-Union, unlike Britain and France.
Britain was especially hypocritical for supporting the Confederacy, given how much they actually did do to outlaw international slavery and how much they spent on interdicting it. But they needed that sweet cotton for their factories and they wanted their money back: an interesting fact is that most southern plantation owners were perpetually deeply in debt, to London bankers.
Ohio? My guess is Ohio.
I just don't understand what makes Nazi idiology attractive to so many people. If I had to guess, I'd say for their "foot soldiers" it might be the strange "logic" of this obtuse ideology that allows people to say: "I'm better than you in every way" - without giving any reasons whatsoever and therefore even if the people in question have nothing at all to show for themselfs. In case of their leaders, the only ones that actually profit, I do kinda understand: It's plain and simple unscrupulous lust for power and influence. In both cases: uncivilized and disgusting.
They like to fantasize about killing people they don't like, and while normal people react to this with horror, other Nazis applaud and encourage them.
Never underestimate group membership and sense of belonging. Add a dash of getting to feel superior to others and seeing a what they think is a solution to what they think are the cause of their woes (i.e. minorities, jews, oddly-shaped rocks, etc.) is a powerful lure (even if those "problems" aren't actual problems, but they have successfully been fooled into so thinking).
In case of their leaders, the only ones that actually profit, I do kinda understand: It’s plain and simple unscrupulous lust for power and influence.
The leaders and vanguard of fascism are typically small capitalists; they've been privileged by society, but at the same time they're victim of the whim of the markets. Such people will never believe the problem is capitalism, since that system rewarded them so much, so they'll grasp at other solutions, such as jews for not doing capitalism correctly, or some vague moral degeneration, or communist saboteurs, or some combination thereof.
Look at the makeup of jan 6ers. There's trade shows with fewer car dealership owners.
Imagine being just the worst fat and ugly white man.
Then you learn there are people who will lie to you that you're better and more handsome than even the most handsome of anyone of another ethnicity.
Idk that's just my guess, as I've never had feelings like that, but a lot of the neonazis I knew of were ugly af and even if they weren't, they thought they were.
So essentially Nazism and the like prey on unhealthy psyches, as there's nothing they could appeal to in a healthy one.
Same with 'blonde, blue-eyed Aryans' in Nazi idiology. Aryan weren't those nordic god-like heroes they'd like. They were Indo-Iranian. So more likely black/brown haired, brown-eyed people.
Tells a big story about those 'proud people' back then and now and their brainless idiology.
That one always puzzled me. That was what they wanted yet thier leader had none of those qualities.
And he wasn't even German.
Standing in America and saying "I am that which Americans brag about killing" has real "that's a bold move, Cotton" energy.
Deport traitors that hate our freedom. Don't like it? Leave it.
Whereto though? The rest of us don’t want your scum either, we have enough of our own, that think going back to the political climate of 1933 would be swell.
Russia said they would take them.
Send them to Singapore, I wanna see them complain about all the shit they've been crying wolf over for years now
ahem American here, right?... So why are you thinking I think that's my problem?
But yes, seriously, I think, where should we escape to?, and it's populism everywhere.
You guys fight domestic Nazis with memes?!
Usually it's counter-protests, and the occasional improvised flamethrower.
At least until we can upload punches to the internet
Gotta fight them on all fronts
Zero connected brain cells.
looks like a neurodivergent elbow. no breading for you.