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[–] kenkenken@fedia.io 195 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 2 months ago

Microsoft confirms it's just a bug.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 151 points 2 months ago

The fact that they won't allow users to uninstall it should suggest some things about their motives.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 151 points 2 months ago

The jokes are becoming reality, I swear...

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 106 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's just too easy to dunk on MS these days. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

[–] don@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Twice. At point blank range. To the back of the head. With an elephant gun.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 84 points 2 months ago (3 children)

it's not for the end user, it's for the end user's boss who wants to monitor all their worker drones' productivity

[–] kbal@fedia.io 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not for the end user's boss, it's there to collect data for the future Microsoft user behaviour analysis tools that will be sold to the end user's boss's boss.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 months ago

it can be for 2 things

but it's definitely not for the benefit of anyone who's forced to use it

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why measure performance metrics in terms of output when we can just 1984 everyone’s workstation.

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have better tools for that.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

office boss using tools LOL good one

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago

User choice is an accident. Got it.

[–] TotalCasual@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

not until Linux bros find a way to appeal to newcomers. being curious about Linux is the worst user experience anyone will ever have about any tech related issue.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You aren't trying to suggest that experienced Linux users are a bunch of arrogant fart-sniffing a-holes who expressly enjoy gate-keeping inexperienced users by being as condescending and unhelpful as possible?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I tried talking about how absolutely horrendous their behaviour was recently, pointing out how completely unhinged and self-defeating it is, and someone actually literally said that this was a good thing because Linux is hard work and they should keep away people that aren't experts.

And first of all, if that's right it's an admission that linux will never succeed, and secondly I agree that's the effect but I think that's bad actually.

I honestly think there must be at least some amount of psyops in the community poisoning the discourse for everyone.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft running psyops to keep the Linux community as toxic as possible

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Omg it really feels like that sometimes.

The youtubers who paint Linux as extremely unstable/not appropriate for gaming almost come across as sponsored by Microsoft. (Not to mention the overemphasis of the ubiquity of adobe suite users i.e. confirmation bias)

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Need to pair it with a stable, easy to use distribution and some good marketing and hardware too. At the end of the day, most people don’t want to spend their weekends scouring forums to understand how to fix some OS issue with a series of terminal commands.

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago

And has been for the last 30 years

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[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s okay, I hit the Windows uninstall button back in April. It’s been quite nice ever since!

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...but was it the "Windows Uninstall" button...or the "format /dev/sda1 as ext4" button?

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah I used the btrfs button

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mmm, butter... :)

Love me some btrfs, the snapshots have saved me a few times already...

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is called “Windows” because they are always looking in at you. I have been on Linux since they announced recall, and their fucking one drive kept secretly uploading my desktop files! (Kept seeing sync icons, even with all that disabled). Since then I now have my wife, uncle, dad, friends, etc all running Linux now.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

How? I have been trying to switch people to linux for over a year and failing

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I gave them laptops, Linux mint pre-installed. I used to buy auction lots of broken laptops, so I got them for like $10 each. Threw in an SSD. It works as fast as a new machine for browsing the web and watching YouTube. I also pre-installed some common programs to get them started.

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

But... But they got the good press of "at least you can uninstall". I hope whoever said that starts a bigger shit storm now.

[–] style99@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago

Microsoft says it remains on track to preview Recall with Windows Insiders on Copilot Plus PCs in October, after the company has had more time to make major changes to Recall.

Just in time for Halloween. That'll be sure to give people a good scare.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 30 points 2 months ago

OF course they had to do it in reverse: it's not a feature, it's a bug.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 24 points 2 months ago

Altogether now children "It's a bug until...it's a feature!"

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How will this work at an enterprise level? I can absolutely say that the company I work for cannot allow that kind of information to be harvested. Our clients would have a conniption. I also can't see our cyber security insurance covering that.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm still on windows ten. Currently trying to switch to Linux. What are your plans when end of life /support comes to Windows ten?

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What are your plans when end of life /support comes to Windows ten?

Switch to Linux and run virtual machines when I need to use Windows.

Right now I don't quite have the drive to do it, but an end to support for Windows 10 would push me over the edge. I just can't stand Windows 11, not even because of all the bullshit but just the way it mandates the UI structure - last time I tried it my dealbreaker was that you can't just have it always display all taskbar icons, you have to manually force each one to show. If a new icon comes up, it will be hidden.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

this one drove me nuts.

let me use the damn computer the way i want to. its mine, i paid for it. let me use small taskbar icons. let me remove the ads.

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[–] polarbearulove@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you don't have prior experience with Linux, I'd advise making the switch before the end of win10 support. I made the switch a couple of months ago with no experience in Linux, and while it wasn't a horrible experience it also wasn't the easiest thing to do. Having the safety net of a Windows partition was really useful during the month or two as I got used to Linux, which I wouldn't have wanted to do with Windows not in support anymore.

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[–] rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Im in the same boat, I'll either move to some cracked version of windows without the recall bs, or more likely some linux distro.

[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's no reason to trust any homebrew or cracked Windows ISO. Just go with Win 10 LTSC. All the bullshit is removed and it has support until 2027. MAS flawlessly activates it. Linux is indeed the better option, and I'll be heading that way soon enough.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I might try to setup Win 10 LTSC which has support until 2027, but I mostly use Mint these days. Would still like to avoid Win 11, even if I only use it for gaming.

[–] wreckage@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I'm sure I'll be there with you soon enough.

[–] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It is so strange to see people flexing $PREVIOUS_WINDOWS when $PREVIOUS_WINDOWS itself brought in egregious anti-features that are now normalized and accepted by average users as "not malware".

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

How could that even happen? It was either never intended to ship outside of the User Experience Package alongside actual system apps or it was intended to be capable of being uninstalled during development.

Sounds like the employees did a little insubordination, good job employee we love you.

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