so they're gonna force me to use fritzboxes. i thought being stuck with telekom daughter companies as ISPs was bad enough.
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What's wrong with good 'ol reliable Fritzbox? Never had a single problem with one and get's the job done
don't like them. the two i ever used had regular crashes and wifi-outages. not to mention the laughable range. i'm cool with people using them, i would just never buy one.
100% this. People are ok with them because it’s all they know. Once you use higher quality networking equipment it’s painful to go back.
As a genuinly curious Fritz-user: such as?
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Your range is much lower than it should be.
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If multiple people use the Wi-Fi at the same time the speed is lower than it should be compared to taking your total speed and dividing by users.
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You are missing access to some settings that you should have access to. On newer Fritzboxes you can’t even set port forwarding at all.
Excuse me but this a load of. Range is just fine, as is speed -unless you’re using a 7581 vDSL model, those were crash-prone and wifi broke often. I have and had several models and that was the only one ever causing trouble. And port forwarding is still there,at least on a 7990 with the latest firmware update.
If you are happy with the range stick with it. 🤷♀️
As for port forwarding it was not an option with the fritzbox provided by vodaphone to me. Maybe because it was DS-Lite stack only.
No that's because vodafone puts their own firmware version on it with limited settings. If you get the same fritzbox with the default firmware from AVM then you have port forwarding.
I had a router from 1&1 where they locked down the firmware to exclude many settings. Might be a similar case with Vodafone.
Good god no.
Getting my own modem and using my own router was the only way I could:
- Get a non CG-NAT IPv4 address
- Set up port forwarding for my ipv4 stack
- set up firewall rules for my ipv6 stack
- Use a non trash tier wireless access point.
The box they gave me had no configuration options outside of renaming the SSID and was only able to do dual stack light. Ridiculous.
I can understand that if they are selling gigabit fibre, deploying optional modem-only installs, and having inexperienced users complaining they aren't getting gigabit speeds because they are using some €15 mini tplink WiFi AP thing, then having to trouble shoot that and potentially look like the bad guys by saying "the hardware you have bought is trash".
I would get mad about that if I had to support that.
Maintaining some sort of "minimum requirements" or "only supported hardware" list considering there are SSSOOOO many routers out there (never mind whitebox openwrt/opnsense/pfsense/mikrotik/raw-linux whatever) is impossible.
And Intel pcie 4-port gigabit cards are so commonly counterfeits (especially on eBay, for those enthusiasts) which could throw so many issues before it even gets to os/userland.
I don't know what the Router Freedom thing is. Sounds amazing to me based on the name (and knowing the EU).
I can understand why ISPs might get antsy when stuff has to run gigabit wirespeed.
But maybe "we only guarantee wirespeed on our hardware"... but if the hardware they are providing is just a modem, it might be hard to remotely debug and provide support.
I think I'm rambling.
Lol, my super old second hand 20€ Archer C7 with OpenWRT has better WiFi speeds than the supplied Fiber Router/Modem.
Imagine that, it has real antennas!
I mean the solution is already being done.
Just have an officially supported list of modems/routers. Realistically 10 would be enough. If a customer calls in asking for technical support you can just say “we only offer support for the devices on the list” anyone who wants more power can buy off list devices knowing they won’t have technical support.
That’s how American ISPs do it.
That’s how American ISPs do it.
That's how the German Telekom does it too with other connection options. It's definitely not an insurmountable problem for ISPs.
I'm baffled in how the EU is so much for consumer rights and punishing Apple, Google and Microsoft but then they completely ignore the issue of choosing your own router in your own home network.
In germany therr is legislation forcing them to allow you to use your own router. This is just a sneaky attempt to circumvent this law via the EU.
This will probably end up backfiring as germany is the EU. They will just slap the same law on all EU countries.
This will probably end up backfiring as germany is the EU. They will just slap the same law on all EU countries.
Thank god, that this is not true, because EU safed us Germans so many time from our conservative governments.