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Unpopular Opinion

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 58 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Yes. I mean, just because your stupid neighbour celebrates their birthday, it doesn't mean you would stop celebrating your birthday just to be different.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The official lemmy interfaces don't track those things.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

The official lemmy interfaces don't track those things.

Cake Days are shown in the default web interface. Like for this user who posted further down in this thread:

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

IMO the issue is not copying cherry picked good features from Reddit, but to indiscriminately copy features because "since Reddit has it, Lemmy got to have it too", without paying attention if they actually benefit the Threadiverse.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bots are one thing like that. Communities could have features built in that was not possible on Reddit since admins are part of the community now.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

Good catch on bots - they're a great example of that, since the underlying idea (less busy work) is 100% worth copying but not the implementation.

In fact IMO Lemmy bots are already a bit too similar to Reddit bots in a bunch of undesirable ways. For example they're created and kept as "pseudo-users", instead of tools associated with a (human) user in their profile.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tldr I don't think this is an unpopular opinion.

Cake day?

I have no idea what day I first started using lemmy, or when I made an account. I'm okay not knowing.

As for "karma", do any instances track total karma, or just per-comment? Honestly I don't give a shit if my comments do well or not, I don't live for other people's amusement.

As for other people, I can't speak for them, but I haven't seen anyone crying for lemmy to be more like reddit.

~___~

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mostly I like the ways it's not like reddit, but I miss 'disable inbox replies'

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Drop controversial comment

"Disable comment replies"

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sometimes you just have something to say but have high confidence that continuing the conversation beyond that isn't going to be productive. I like having the option to not be tempted.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I didn’t think karma existed on Lemmy? Or maybe it was removed in ann update?

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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure if I should downvote this popular opinion in the unpopular opinion sub or upvote it, for more people to see this wholesome take.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had to look at the community rules to see what to do as well:

If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.

What is the protocol for when I don’t have enough data to assess how popular an opinion is and I want to spread and support it to make it more popular of an opinion?

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

welp, i decided not to do anything 😅

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

how do we reward original content?

[–] Crumbgrabber@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago

Toothpaste.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How would Lemmy reward original content?

[–] Crumbgrabber@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

So you're in favor of the Reddit2 proposition then...

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

You'd cause a bloody revolution in the eco.br instance if you don't offer coxinha as an alternative reward.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I literally do not and have never cared about votes or awards.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kevindqc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol it actually is. Boost for Lemmy doesn't show it, had to go on his profile to see the date

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Voyager (on android) puts a little cake-slice emoji 🍰 next to people's names. I get tickled because I joined during one of the big exodi from Reddit so I share cake day with a lot of other people.

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[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Enjoy Lemmy Gold, kind stranger!

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[–] _bcron@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or we all hope Reddit continues as it is, not as a hotbed of original content like it was 10+ years ago, but as a place to rehost content found on other sites, and watch it fade into obscurity so better-run platforms can fill the void

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All social media is just reposting from other social media sites.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Strongly agreed.

I'm reminded of the scene in Groundhog Day in which they have that one day that just unfolds naturally and is so wonderful, and then the next time through, the Bill Murray character tries to duplicate it, and it's just awful and cringey.

Lemmy, given the chance, will (continue to) develop its own norms and memes and traditions, and be that much better for it. Just trying to duplicate Reddit here is not only doomed to failure, but cringey.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The reverse can also happen, though. Many of the features of Reddit are there because they are good, so if we just strive to be different for the sake of being different that will end up awful too.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 13 points 2 weeks ago

Let's get rid of cake day but there is already no karma on Lemmy meaning no general upvote count. It will be much harder to find anything if we get rid of a voting system and the one we have is probably the most transparent and easy-to-understand one 2 opposite force and to possibility to choose neighter.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's important for developers to stay active within the community and try to understand how the community uses the tools available and what additions or changes are desired or would be beneficial. Obviously people disagree about what those things are at times, but I think with patience and empathy we can iterate ideas and get to better places.

I see people posting more and more news on Lemmy and I enjoy that, but it does make the need for tools that fight disinformation. Maybe that's the source-checker bot (feels like a stopgap to me) or maybe that's a combination of new ui and api features that draw from Twitter's community fact-checking and how some instances are use bias-checkers.

Moderation tools are always in need of improvement too.

Hey I even think silly shit like emoji reactions and awards have a place for people that prefer less verbal forms of interaction but still want nuance or whimsy.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The only thing I miss here are active niche communities. Other than that, it's so much better than Spez's data vacuuming service.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Did Reddit invent cake days? I thought that was a Digg thing.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I would like some geographic filtering, or at least sorting, do I can see local stuff before all the USA election posts.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think it would be cool if you couldn't see the upvote/downvote score until you voted

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[–] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only thing that would even make sense to bring imo is a leveling system of sorts, straight from the forums of old.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there a place where you can see your useless internet points on lemmy. They are only needed to show the general opinion of the thread. It a superior system to reddits bot fueled lies.

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