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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Interesting:

The sagging Chinese demand has dropped the economy's revenues:

But they also write:

Chinese refineries replaced Russian oil with barrels from the Middle East,

In addition, imports from Malaysia, which is the main hub for oil transit from the sub-sanctioned countries of Iran and Venezuela, soared 61%

So it seems it is not lacking Chinese demand, but probably Russia that can't keep supplies up. China is buying Russian oil super cheap, so why would they replace that with other sources?

If true, this is a clear indication that Russian production is failing, probably because Ukraine is bombing refineries and depots, and Russia can't maintain their production, because they were dependent on western expertise, and Russia infra structure in general is hurt by worker shortages.

Russia is slowly collapsing under the burden of the war, which was clearly too big a bite for their economy to chew.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd rather Russia just packs up and goes home but if economic collapse is a self imposed prerequisite I wish they'd get on with it.

It doesn't seem like the Ukrainian strikes on oil infrastructure are going to let up any time soon especially given how effective they've been.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Putin will not pack up and go home unless he is forced to do it.
An economy and infrastructure that is deteriorating/collapsing, will bring this about faster.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

it stops the marching in Ukraine or else it gets the hose again >:(

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago

It does this whenever it is told!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What are you quoting?

EDIT:
Thanks for the downvotes, when it's not even a quote, but a reference.
Marking it as a quote is incorrect.

Excuse me for asking. ?!

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Silence of the lambs; Buffalo Bill

A handful of $1000 drones with some C4 strapped to them in exchange for a refinery/processing plant/etc probably worth $50-100M or more? Sounds like a great tradeoff.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or it is due to Chinese banks making paying for the oil more difficult.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I guess that's a possibility too, but I doubt it. I suspect that would mostly make payments slower or in other currencies than Ruble, and Russia would have no choice but to accept that.