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[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 217 points 3 weeks ago (33 children)

They will turn off the live service and make it work offline?

I don't understand. Industry bootlickers told me it was impossible and would cost billions to implement, hurting small indie studios the most. Yet, Nintendo does it voluntarily with seemingly no difficulties.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 85 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo doing something good consumer-wise for once and not being a dick? I'm conflicted.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would argue Nintendo does do a lot of pro-consumer stuff. Like making actually good games. It's just their anti-consumer stuff is either so bad or just plain weird that we just scratch our heads and think Nintendo is going off the deep end. Still trying to avoid buying much Nintendo going forward.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Making a good game is the minimum expectation. Making an open platform to force competition to also endorse open platforms would be going above and beyond to be pro consumer.

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You really have no idea how intellectual property works do you? The reason they've gone after emulation and rom hosting sites is pretty obvious, they have to protect their IP.

Why they've waited so long only to do it now? I honestly don't have an answer for you on that one, but if I were to guess it's because retro gaming has been going through somewhat of a renaissance as of late due to shitty AAA games and indie devs gaining so much popularity.

The bottom line is Nintendo lost the emulation battle once, and they don't want to lose a second time. They're more experienced and understand the risks of letting emulation replace services like Nintendo switch online, and so do publishers that own intellectual property from retro consoles. It sucks, but that's corporate life, and you can't really get around it without jumping through hoops or doing something illegal.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Your comment is very out of place as a response to mine, but since you brought all this up:

I don't begrudge Nintendo for getting ROM sites shut down. I begrudge them for shutting them down without also making their games legally available for purchase where their customers want to play them. Those old games aren't even legally available for purchase at all, because they want to just rent them to you forever, which is an enormous dick move. Then they further that with the dick move of trying to remove the place where we get those games the way we'd like to enjoy them, and getting them that way is a better experience than using their official solution.

So assuming you didn't get lost and you actually meant to respond to my comment, I can't consider them pro consumer when they're not doing what's in the consumer's best interests.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 27 points 3 weeks ago

Nintendo refuse to ever be predictable

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Don't worry they'll do a C&D sometime soon to make up for it

[–] KinkOnlyKink@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Nintendo might be seeing the writing on the wall and looking to see how much profit they can make with this. If it goes well, we might see more of it. Corporations hate regulation and sometimes try and head it off long before it is coming.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago

i mean iirc capcom already had done something similar beforehand with megaman x dive

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You don't get it bro, Nintendo decimated half of their net worth pulling off this miracle!!!!!!! ^^^/ ^^^s

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 109 points 3 weeks ago

This is the future StopKillingGames wants us to live in.

[–] TheBest@midwest.social 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is..... kind of weird, no? Like why would they pull the plug on an app that keeps the microtransaction money rolling?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 89 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have to imagine the game is no longer making enough money through MTX to staff a dev team anymore.

This seems like a pretty good way to end a live service game, though. This way your game doesn't just disappear into the ether completely.

[–] TheBest@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

That was the most logical answer I came up too. Its just crazy to do the right thing and make if work offline instead of just binning it like so many other live service games.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, I never paid for it but I did the math many years ago, to explain predatory microtransactions, and found out that for a chance - a perfect rolled no dupes chance - it'd be cheaper to buy a 2DS and a physical copy of new leaf.

Like, there's only so many times they can release a set or do a palette swap for a 'new' collection.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I recall Nintendo claiming they wanted to move away from mobile again a while ago but I didn‘t really believe it back then and I‘m still skeptical now. They‘ve received more criticism for their predatory mobile games lately so maybe that got something to do with it or it‘s simply not making enough money anymore to bother with it and they‘d rather get the devs working on something else.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

nintendo and DeNA crates a joint venture team last year, so i highly doubt theyre pulling out of mobile, theyre just relying less on it.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I always wondered this myself.

I think I remember reading a while ago that apps need to be updated occasionally to comply with .apk guidelines.

This is presumably dependant on which permissions the .apk requests. So a simple calculator app wouldn't need to be updated, but the calculator plus app, which tracks my blood pressure, how many glasses of water I've drank, and my semen count, would need to be updated occasionally to comply with Google's privacy policies.

But I'm not an app developer, so don't trust me on a whim.

[–] Masamune@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I see your post has a few upvotes. Therefore, I will trust you implicitly on this matter. Thank you!

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe Switch 2 will be announced around than with a new AC as a launch title?

[–] Sharan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the game like? Basically, this is the first time I've heard of it.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a simplified version of animal crossing for mobile, with some microtransactions to speed things up. I played it on release and it's pretty decent.

[–] Sharan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, nothing to write home about. Thanks.

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