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“Guys, please watch this insane ad I got on TikTok,” the caption of a viral thread on X (formerly Twitter) read last month. The thread, which has more than 20 million views, contains clips from a film titled Forbidden Desires: Alpha’s Love, about a college professor named Adrian who falls in love with his student, who also happens to be his stepsister. Also, Professor Adrian is a millionaire. And a werewolf.

The plot begs a number of questions: Why does a werewolf millionaire need to hold a salaried job as an academic, albeit in an unspecified discipline? How does the university provost feel that his stepsister is in his classroom? And why does Professor Adrian look kind of like a hunkier Conan O’Brien? To quote Professor Adrian himself: “Stop asking questions for answers which you don’t need to know.”

Forbidden Desires: Alpha’s Love is one of many vertical series, a nascent sector of the Western entertainment industry consisting of feature-length soap operas broken down into approximately 90-second increments and consumed on your phone. The plots are simple — they either involve werewolves, billionaires, CEOs, vampires, or more often than not, a combination of all four — the scripts nonsensical, and the acting quality ranging from decent to sub-pornographic. The female lead is always clumsy, with flawless ombre waves; the male is tall, dark, wealthy, and brooding, in the model of 50 Shades’ Christian Grey. More often than not, the principals are young, conventionally attractive, and white. “They have a very specific look for all of these verticals. I like to call it the CW Network look,” says Kyra Wisely, an actor who has starred in such projects as Fated to My Forbidden Vampire.

ReelShort has more than 30 million downloads and generates more than $10 million in revenue per month, according to Jia; in November 2023, it briefly outpaced TikTok in downloads on the App Store, rising to the Number Three spot.

The platform does not exclusively operate via a traditional, subscription-based streaming model, but provides users with free access to a select number of episodes before they must purchase “coins” to unlock the full series. (The series can cost between $20 and $40 to finish, though it’s possible to avoid paying by watching ads to earn free coins; users also have the option to purchase a one-time subscription.) It’s a paradigm shift from conventional wisdom about streaming, and that’s by design, according to Jia. “Hollywood is arrogant,” he says. “Unfortunately, their production structures, their content delivery methods, and content selection process are in the Stone Age.” By the end of this year, he predicts, verticals will be a billion-dollar industry.

(Of course, all the creatives involves are paid very little.)

Another consistent complaint is the quality of the screenwriting, which is, almost uniformly, borderline incoherent. Because screenwriters are often not explicitly credited, some actors tell Rolling Stone they were unsure if humans even wrote them. “I think a lot of these scripts are written by AI,” Ryan Watson Henderson, the star of Flash Marriage to My Werewolf Husband and My Husband Killed Me and Then I Won the Megaball, says. “There are certain beats in the story that happen, almost to a formula.” He considers this a compelling acting challenge unique to verticals: “I try to bring some of myself to it and hopefully make it as human as I can,” he says.

While representatives for most major platforms did not respond to requests for comment on if AI is used for scripts, ReelShort, at least, employs up to 20 (human) in-house writers and editors to generate its content, according to Jia.

Generally speaking, there is a degree of secrecy surrounding the writing processes of vertical series, though many of the sources I spoke with claim that many of the scripts for other platforms are originally written in Mandarin before being translated into English. “I was told they were translated by human beings,” says Leomax He, a director who has worked for platforms such as FlexTV and DramaBox. “But I don’t know. Some dialogue sounds like AI.” Actor Troy Dillinger says he once pushed back against a literally interpreted stage direction for a series (not on ReelShort) requiring his character to beg for something “hat in hand.”

“They had this ridiculous fedora from Target. I was like, ‘I’m not wearing that. ‘Hat in hand’ is just an expression,’” he says. “And they were like, well we talked to the client, and you have to have the hat in hand.’ So I was like, ‘OK, just give me the fucking hat.’”

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Holy Shit. Once again, 30 Rock "predicted" the future by filming things too absurd to be real.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They had a show called milf island. Yesterday i learned about the show milf manor.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

And it's great

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“I think a lot of these scripts are written by AI,” Ryan Watson Henderson, the star of Flash Marriage to My Werewolf Husband and My Husband Killed Me and Then I Won the Megaball, says. “There are certain beats in the story that happen, almost to a formula.” He considers this a compelling acting challenge unique to verticals: “I try to bring some of myself to it and hopefully make it as human as I can,” he says."

What a rollercoaster of a paragraph. Are we sure this isn't The Onion?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or perhaps AI wrote the article about AI produced video to complete the meta.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

At Rolling Stone?!?

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's rolling stone. It's bot that far off.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 3 weeks ago

Rolling Stone has some excellent writers and has done excellent reporting. What are you going on about?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've been waiting for this to happen. We've seen an absolutely huge increase in the number of readers who expect books to be a collection of specific tropes showing up in various scifi and fantasy book communities asking for book recommendations that match a chosen hyper specific trope collection. I'm not sure when this started but I've noticed more of it every year for a while.

I've been expecting someone to start churning out AI produced content (books, short videos, generated game plots) in the same collection of tropes style since generative AI really caught on back in ~2022. It's amusing as hell that trashy-short-soap-opera-on-tiktok is where it really gained a hold first. I think we're going to see a whole lot more of this across every form of media soon and I hope the flood doesn't draw too many users away from legit content creators who work hard to produce their own content.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What I don’t get is if you have to pay actors, camera crew, rent on sets and equipment, etc, how much can you save on a writer by using AI? Especially since the expectations are already so low?

Is this just a way to avoid hiring union work? I assume these actors aren’t union?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I assume it's a way to build a training dataset to fine tune a model over time. If they pay creatives for 2y while feeding the AI at some point they'll no longer need humans in the loop (outside of spot checking or go/no-go judgements.) That's how I'd get this off the ground anyway.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing is union. No one gets residuals. Everything is about saving as much money as possible. Replacing writers with AI saves them money. Especially when they clearly could not give less of a shit if the show makes any sense whatsoever.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's always a distinct market segment for rag. Now AI can take over the rag. I don't mind really

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Poor Quibi. Totally ahead of it’s time.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you, I was trying to remember what that was called

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just threw up in my mouth reading that title.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is the future tiktokers want.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Everyday we stray further from god

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

some actors tell Rolling Stone they were unsure if humans even wrote them. “I think a lot of these scripts are written by AI,” Ryan Watson Henderson, the star of Flash Marriage to My Werewolf Husband and My Husband Killed Me and Then I Won the Megaball,

These fucking titles lol

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know! I compiled a complete list from the article because I love them all so much:

Sleeping Handsome
Let’s Mate!
Fool Me Once, Revenge on You
Fated to My Forbidden Alpha
Married for Green Card, Stayed for Love
Snatched a Billionaire To Be My Husband
Oops! I Married a Billionaire CEO
Flash Marriage to My Werewolf Husband
My Husband Killed Me and Then I Won the Megaball
Snatched a Billionaire To Be My Husband
The Double Life of My Billionaire Husband
Never Divorce a Secret Billionaire Heiress
Oops, I Married a CEO by Mistake

My favorite one is the Megaball one, but I also love the idea of marrying a billionaire without realizing it to be an "oops" and not a "oh my god, score!"

[–] cows_are_underrated 2 points 3 weeks ago

Some of them do sound like porn.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

as a young woman on set. “The way these verticals are cast, there’s a lot of age-gap stuff. I’m consistently working with love interests who are 10 years or older than me,” says Wisely, who is 19. “So if I’m making out with a man who’s old enough to be my father, it’s nice knowing there’s an intimacy coordinator right there helping us feel more comfortable.”

Yikes. Actual 19 year olds making out with people twice their age for some 40 year old single Moms fantasy. This trash should be AI-generated actresses.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's pretty standard for the entertainment industry as a whole, unfortunately. Think about the huge number of mainstream movies and TV shows where middle-aged heartthrobs have extremely young girlfriends where the age difference is never an issue: James Bond movies, Pretty Woman, virtually every Denzel Washington romantic film...

https://929nin.com/movie-age-gaps-older-men-younger-women-list/

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand. Are people into that?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

For some reason, yes. I don't understand either.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 3 weeks ago

as the genre explodes, some of the nearly dozen actors and crew members who spoke with Rolling Stone say they’re chafing against the projects’ alleged grueling shooting pace, lack of racially diverse casting, and claims that they “take advantage” of struggling writers

Oh, no worry. Soon some foreign country will just release a new streaming app that does all of it in AI. No more actors. No more writers.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 3 weeks ago

fans all over the world, who tend to be primarily single mothers in their forties and fifties

Shit, I'll be their Grey werewolf cossplay if they're so desperate. Someone hack their user DB and send me their digits, yo

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

My partner watches these kinds of things (no money exchanged) and I make fun of her for it, telling her that in ten years she'll be watching As The World Turns