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FlyingSquid is a Zionist who actively censors content critical of israel. In the past this was using false claims of anti-semitism but after acquiring mod powers he has started banning anti-israel posters.

After acuiquiring mod powers on /WorldNews FlyingSquid bans me by making up lies about defending the usage of child soldiers which never happened:

Recently he tried to defend himself by lying about it

After being called out for lying FlyingSquid pretends to act in good faith for a little as if he was just confused that day. Let's see what happens when we play along:

When pointed out the he was lying the crybully instantly paints himself as the victim who is "about to be insulted". FlyingSquid is clearly trying to bait an insult to use as an excuse for a reban:

Despite not being insulted, the crybully still claims he was. The Zionist victim complex is a sight to behold. He now demands to be acknowledged for his abuse of mod powers likely hoping to bait an insult:

After failing to ragebait insults the Zionist crybully "changes is his mind" and starts tacking on random extra conditions as an excuse to reban me. He now starts demanding acknowledgement for how amazing he is for falsely banning people.

At this point it is very obvious FlyingSquid has no intentions to unban me from WorldNews and is just trolling:

Subsequently he lies one more time in his ban description.

Edit: JordanLund has joined in and claimed that if you support any action of a group or individual, you fully support every action that group or invidividual has ever committed. Meaning that anyone who supports Joe Biden forgiving Student Loans actually supports the Genocide in Gaza and is a Zionist.

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[–] abcdefg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Linkerbaan the way you handle this is unhealthy. I agree with your positions on Palestine but you have to learn when to give up on this for your own sanity.

Moving forward FlyingSquid and Jordanlund are symptoms of a wider problem on lemmy, the concentration of users on one instance, that share many mods across communities. As someone who came from reddit I deleted my account altogether over a conversation with FlyingSquid where he alluded to me being a child soldier supporting Russian bot, whatever. Yeah I know supporting Ansar Allah is wildly unpopular, but they are righteous for putting themselves at risk for Palestinians, after putting up with their own genocide. These two users are generally online, at all times, and they have adopted this strange mindset that every disagreement is an attack.

No I do not support child soldiers, its obviously disgusting, but you're speaking from a computer screen when these countries have lost hundreds of thousands, their infrastructure razed, and their people starved. These people were at war with two imperialist, hyper-militarized powers, SA and the US for nearly a decade. Sorry that I support them even though they do some fucked up shit, I'm not in a place to judge in my first world bubble.

The larger issue at hand is you have federated networks that don't actually act very federated. You see it with matrix.org, mastodon.social, and Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world's decisions, alongside their moderators decisions have massive impacts on the rest of the 'fediverse'. If they add an MBFC bot you don't agree with, you can go to another underpopulated news site. Its too much power in one instance. World news bans mondoweiss despite it being okay to source on wikipedia. There's a lot of complaining that Lemmy.ml devs have too much power, yet they have given an instance they are ideologically at odds with the ability to sway all of lemmy at a whim.

I don't know. I'm rambling. I thought that Lemmy would be different from reddit. I don't know why. Its really sad to see federation not open us up to discussion more, instead just following each other around, downvoting, and banning everything we disagree with. But alas I'll delete this account too and continue browsing without one.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Moving forward FlyingSquid and Jordanlund are symptoms of a wider problem on lemmy, the concentration of users on one instance, that share many mods across communities.

A major cause of this is .World users proclaiming their superiority of "non-censorship" and their continuous barrage of insults against other instances.

What helps is having the veil lifted a bit so users realize .World is not 'the only sane instance'. Every instance has its biases and censorships. Though banning users on false pretenses is a new low for /WorldNews.

you have to learn when to give up on this for your own sanity.

Don't worry, 9 months of debunking Zionists gets you a pretty strong mental. There is such a stark difference in the comment section since I started that even the most ardent Zionists have converted to concern trolling about Trump since defending israel is a lost cause.

As someone who came from reddit I deleted my account altogether over a conversation with FlyingSquid where he alluded to me being a child soldier supporting Russian bot, whatever

And I'm glad you have written that down here for others to observe.

I don’t know. I’m rambling. I thought that Lemmy would be different from reddit

It is, albeit ever so slightly. Reddit had full lockdown on censorship and Lemmy clearly doesn't have that.

When users start noticing the censorship they will migrate, not beforehand. This is the reason these posts calling out power abuse are important.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah I'm not a fan of the MBFC bot or censorship. An article about first-hand accounts by some survivors about the school bombing earlier this week was removed because it was Mondoweiss

Although tbh, I think when you insult people, even Zionists, it puts you in a bad light. It's better just to source and debunk.

I've seen both FlyingSquid and Jordanlund advocate for an end to the genocide and Apartheid, I wouldn't call them Zionists. I don't think the ban was deserved, but neither of you were that civil in the DMs

Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis have all done terrible things. They're all right wing reactionary resistance armies that formed under violent oppressive foreign intervention such as colonialism, occupation, or blockades. That kind of violence doesn't come out of nowhere, but both need to be solved