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Currently, almost anyone in the Fediverse can see Lemmys votes. Lemmy admins can see votes, as well as mods. Only regular Lemmy users can't. Should the Lemmy devs create a way to make the votes anonymous?

There is a discussion going on right now considering "making the Lemmy votes public" but I think that premisse is just wrong. The votes are public already, they're just hidden from Lemmy users. Anyone from a kbin/mbin/fedia instance can check out the votes if they are so inclined.

The users right now may fall into a false sense of privacy when voting because the votes are hidden from Lemmy users. If you want to vote something and not show up on the vote list, please create another account to support that type of content and don't tell anyone.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

Any instances that actually show public downvotes? I've seen people talk about them but haven't seen them yet

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If that were to happen, the receiving end wouldn't know who sent which vote, thus making spamming extremely easy.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Make the author of the comment/post see who voted for them.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

~~Sill waiting for someone to show me how to see what someone up votes and down votes on Lemmy through a pre-existing Mbin or Mastodon instance. That's really been the only convincing argument to make them public that I've heard. (That convinces me, I mean.) But nobody has shown it is possible through fedia.io for example. I tried but couldn't see it, but it's possible I was looking in the wrong place.~~

It's on mbin's post/comment under more > activity. Not under a user's profile.

[–] kali@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here is a video of me doing it on my phone with fedia.io: https://files.catbox.moe/nb5rx1.mp4 For some reason it wouldn't show me reduces (downvotes), though.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ahhhh, okay. I was expecting it to be under a user but it is attached to the post. That makes targeted harassment marginally more difficult but regardless, I definitely can see that it's trivial to see the upvotes (favorites) and downvotes (reduces).

Whether or not this is "good" or "bad" I'm still undecided on, but you've officially convinced me that it is trivial to see exactly who voted (and how) on a post (or comment). You do not need to "set up an instance" like many people say.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I can see that in some circumstances, votes might need to be public due to protocol, otherwise public votes have their own uses, and so are private ones.

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

if I leave it there. It’s because it’s not foul enough to warrant a ban but I don’t want to press a little green check box explicitly endorsing its existence. I have been here the whole time :/ Yal couped me

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 1 month ago

No, it would encourage irresponsibility which already seems a major issue with lemmy.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

No, but they should be public to everyone, and not hidden unless you jump through hoops.

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