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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2881638

The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.

If this is a problem for you, I'd suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn't block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

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[–] leraje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be worth remembering here that Lemmy instances, including .world are hosted by regular people. Not massive multinational companies worth billions who can engage the best legal talent around.

If Hollywood comes after a Lemmy instance, Holywood have a huge legal team and endless money. The Lemmy instance has some guy. They could quite literally destroy a persons life. With that in mind, I don't blame any instance owners for erring on the side of taking a stance that won't put them in the legal firing line.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

For me, it looks like people are mad at the US defaultism of the decision.

I understand why. It makes for part of the users no sense as they are protected by the law. It looks like a US "shitshow". Countries are protecting the IP of the person, making it nearly impossible to pursue someone. Others have law allowing the use and the copy of copyrighted material for educational purposes. Some allow the download of copyrighted material.

It's the same with GDPR. Meta must comply. There is no exception because US defaultism.

And we can understand this point of view too. It's not binary as the US people think it is. It's more mixed depending of the country.


Generally, outside of this drama, on the internet, people are reclaiming they right and don't want the US "example" anymore. They want the internet following their local laws like the GDPR for Europeans. They have the right to claim it. Thanks to GDPR, mandatory usb-c, battery replacement and others laws in Europe and outside, the consciences of are awakened that the US is not the model to follow in terms of law on the internet and technologies.

[–] snickers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of the comments in here are a fucking disgrace and a disappointment.

I just shut down my own self-hosted instance the other week because of legal concerns. Caching anything and everything that gets pushed to my server and basically having to put all my faith in other admins taking care of illegal stuff in a timely manner was stressful and not worth the risk. And that was a solo instance!

It’s only a matter of time until lawyers backed by millions of dollar come knocking on the door of lemmy admins and I can’t fault lw for being pro-active. Whether or not it’s legal in your jurisdiction to host communities like this doesn’t matter at all if you’re not the one with a name attached to the server. Even wrongful legal claims by copyright holders are costly and time intensive to fight back against.

Why should a private person who hosts an instance for thousands of users for free subject themselves to such a risk?

[–] captain_samuel_brady@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. I’m a lawyer. I wouldn’t be afraid of the civil risk unless I was accepting donations. Suing regular people isn’t really a profitable endeavor. I’m more concerned about paying for the hosting and being subscribed to enough of the fediverse to have a representative instance.

[–] jvilhuber@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

There's also those that sue for political reasons and not for money. Perhaps we need more lawyers to step up and offer their services pro bono to fediverse admins. The admins are volunteering their time for you. Might as well return the favor.

[–] dinguscod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love all the salty comments about having to move. Its piracy, it will always be removed if it becomes too popular. This is how it has always been and always will be. No one is obligated to feed you free shit without any effort on your part. They take one place down and you move on. Either get used to it or start paying for services.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does no one understand that the admins don't want the instance to be shut down and they don't want to be arrested????

I am very pro-piracy, but I would never host a piracy community because I don't want to be freaking jailed. Governments view those that host piracy and piracy communities much more harshly than random participants.

Is everyone on this website 12 years old and not understanding of real world consequences???

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because from everything I've seen, those communities did not do ANYTHING illegal. They talked about software that can be used that way, but if we go by that measure, discussing any Fediverse software is illegal, because you could use that to host illegal content.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they haven't done anything illegal yet. But the key word is "yet" and the admins obviously don't want to risk it.

If it was your ass on the line for potential prison time, I'm sure you'd have a different opinion.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

But that's true of literally every single community. Posting copyrighted images in a pics community, copyrighted music in a little video/gif, a nazi denying the holocaust (illegal in Germany) in one little comment a hundred comments in...

Who do you think is more likely to overstep? A community very well aware of the risks and the scrutiny they are under, full of people that are themselves aware of the risks, or some rando on some random community?

Obviously, they are allowed to ban or not ban whatever they want, but I just think it's a very short sighted, quickfire decision.

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Situations like these are the strength of the fediverse. Move your account to an instance that shares your values or doesn't care about stuff like this.

Maybe you shouldn't even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Edit: Didn't mean to ridicule any of you all. I based my comment on my experience when I signed up. At that time there were plenty of instances to pick from and getting approved at my instance of choice was very quick. My bad.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe you shouldn’t even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Maybe I didn't have my crystal ball nearby when I was creating my Lemmy account.

Maybe many users will have an account on the largest server, because by definition it's the largest server, with the most users. 🙄

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s so easy to change instances, and there are extensions and things to export/import your subscriptions, etc. Just head over to one ones that’s hosting the content, or check out others to see if they will keep federated with the pirate communities. Make the same username, and most won’t even know that you’re posting from a different instance. You can still see everything you did before, just also possibly some other stuff. You might also get beehaw and hexbear (for better or for worse is up to you)! I feel like I might hop instances a few more times before I settle.

[–] FuzzChef@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It’s so easy to change instances, and there are extensions and things to export/import your subscriptions, etc.

Hmmm

[–] xaon_rider92@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It's unfortunate, but it's kinda understandable why they chose to do so. The admins are just a bunch of regular people, they may not have the financial security to risk the legal issues that could come from having any sort of piracy related content.

I guess I'll just be using my alt acc for piracy stuff.

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is probably the best option for Lemmy.world. It’s not being run by a big company, after all. Normal people often get screwed when their servers have anything related to piracy on them.