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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 57 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Fossil fuel companies are running “a massive mis- and disinformation campaign” so that countries will slow down the adoption of renewable energy and the speed with which they “transition away” from a carbon-intensive economy, the UN has said.

Really wish the headline would add in the who.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Free speech is one thing, but if you're lying for personal gain there should be consequences. Clearly we can't keep going on this way, especially when it comes to climate.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

"fuck them kids!!!"

-big oil

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

Literally all of the global fossil fuel companies.

[–] Atsur@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What does the World Health Organization have to do with it?

[–] kevindqc@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Pollution kills millions every year

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There is this prevailing narrative – and a lot of it is being pushed by the fossil fuel industry and their enablers – that climate action is too difficult, it’s too expensive

The thing is, adequately addressing the climate crisis is going to be very difficult and expensive. We should do it anyway, because if we don't the consequences are likely to be severe, but I don't think we should lie to people and say it's going to be cheap and easy. This is going to be hard. Really hard. This is our moonshot, only many times more difficult. But that's exactly why we should do it.

Somewhere along the line, we turned into a country that is afraid of doing anything too difficult. We used to do things because they were difficult, now we shy away from anything that's even remotely challenging. Do people remember JFK's 'We Choose To Go To The Moon' speech?

We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win

What happened to us? I think I answered my own question: we need leaders who can inspire people to take on incredible challenges. We need someone who will stand up in front of the American people and say, "yes, addressing climate change is going to be hard, and that's exactly why we are going to do it! We can do it, we must do it, we will do it."

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Late stage capitalism happened to us. Big money saw the writing on the wall as we got smarter and more ambitious and progressive as a people and said “not in my backyard”.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Goddamn, I love that speech every time I hear or read it.

Edit: unsaladed the thing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah it’s going to be very expensive. Not nearly as expensive as not doing it, but more immediately expensive. And the longer we hold off the more expensive and difficult it gets and the less resources we’ll have to do it with. We should have taken it seriously before I was born, but we need to now

Is America not the country that claims to be the greatest on earth? Why would we not do this then? Why should we not lead by example and show the world what can be done? This world has done so much for America, it’s time we ask not what the world can do for America but what America can do for the world. And worst case scenario, we get cheaper energy and a cleaner country.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

it was a different time. people did things because they were hard because they themselves were harder. they were also teamed together, opposite of now. people use to get worried if the city over got the new jobs, not the country over.

[–] tekila@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep Big meat and dairy is doing the same in the food industry. Fuck those corpos.

Here's a video about the subject in the US https://youtu.be/hmCvD9KxSB8

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

You said Big Meat, haha

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

You don’t say.

There’s a big orange man right now saying wind is fake, and kills whales.

[–] 432@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In West Texas, renewable energy has been and will continue to grow like crazy. Nothing is going to be able to stop it.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

It also doesn't help that the USA, one of the biggest polluters of the world, recently instituted massive tariffs on green energy technologies in the name of protecting domestic industry that refuses to price such technologies at levels that would let people afford switching to them.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 12 points 3 months ago

I've tried to tell people this for years