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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even if this image were real, and it was provable that it was the biblical Goliath, how in the fuck does that have anything to do with disproving evolution lol

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Christians: "Well, you see, God was right because the Bible was proved true. That's why it disproves your silly science.

The Bible contains everything about life! If it's not in there, it doesn't exist!"

People: "Show me where in the Bible it has kangaroos."

Christians: "We're being oppressed!"

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely love it when the crazy Christians try to pull the "If it's not in the Bible, it doesn't exist!" thing because at that point most everything they use on an every day basis must all be fictional things that don't exist.

Internet? Not in the Bible.

Smart phones? Nope.

Cars? Not a chance.

Facebook? Haell No.

TV? They wish.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or they give you one of these "what year is?" "2024" "2024 what?" "AD: "and what does AD stand for?"

[–] mattd@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Just saying that is unlikely to persuade any religious crazies. Especially since NDGT came out and said he uses BC/AD because the Gregorian calendar was worked out by a priest so he’ll give them that nomenclature point. It’s just an arbitrary scale anyway.

[–] Arrkk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And what year did we start using that calendar system? Oh right, it was 525.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Finally found some credible evidence"

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seymour! Your pants are on fire!

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Haha, no mother. It's just the Northern Lights.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, Goliath was called a giant but wasn't "my skull is the size of a full grown man's torso" big. He is said to be about 9'-9'9". Which, if there was historical legitimacy to the story, could easily be within the range of a very tall person that had their height exaggerated over time.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At 7 cubits tall his skull would still not be that big. They should have claimed it was a nephilim skull instead.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

7 cubits = 3.2m = 10.5ft

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also Goliath was canonically 9 ft 9 inches tall. That fake skull alone is at least 2 feet tall. The average proportion of head to body height in humans is a ratio of 1:7.5. So the owner of this skull would likely be at least 15 feet tall. Much larger than Goliath.

[–] neo@lemy.lol 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe he was the original Funko Pop?

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Fun fact: If (big if) Goliath really existed, he was probably suffering from acromegaly. It is characterized by a person not stopping to grow after puberty. The reason for that is an enlarged, tumorous pituary gland in the brain. So David hitting Goliath between the eyes might actually have ruptured the tumour, leading to internal bleeding in his brain and killing Goliath.

So the whole biblical story might be based on something that actually happened and then probably got more and more dramaticised every time it was told.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It probably isn't even all that dramatacized,

It is not hard at all to do serious damage with a genuinely made sling, there's a reason people wielding those things operated as a military unit in ancient times, and they were pretty mean spirited folks too!

They'd actually write insults and jokes on the stones like "CATCH ME!", "HEADS UP!" "OUCH!" "BONK!"

Basically the historical inaccuracies would be in terminology rather than exact action, and also in David not following the shot up with "THINK FAST CHUCKLENUTS!"

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Imagine being a 6ft dude and some little bastard pulls out a gun and shoots you dead while the town cheers about that how courageous that little shit is.

[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It could also be based on any random tall dude dying from getting hit in the face by a flying rock, rare medical condition or not.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe getting hit in the head by a rock launched from a sling is enough to make a person's head basically explode.

Seriously, a competent sling user can easily kill someone with one.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I found a quick little video demonstration of a guy using a sling and stone against a ballistic gel head.

Just judging off of that, I would agree that weird tumors would not need to be involved for a sling to kill a large fellow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hitting someone square in the forehead with a rock, in the Bronze Age, was a quick way to kill them regardless of size. There's a reason this image

is both iconic and incredibly triggering to the IDF. You whip that thing around hard and fast enough, and you're going to crack a head.

So the whole biblical story might be based on something that actually happened

I don't find the story of a young, spry soldier with a bit of luck and some good aim thwacking a rival warlord with a rock implausible in the slightest. Its all the propaganda packed in around the story, what with David having some sort of euphoric epiphany and the rock being magicked by God to score the killing blow, that causes folks to roll their eyes in disbelief.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Also he totally fought a lion before he went up against Goliath. David was a bigger badass than Goliath the entire time

Can you tell me more about that picture?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, I think I've heard that shepards would be skilled with a sling.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It makes sense, hanging out in a field all day with nothing to do but flip rocks at stuff, you'd git gud quick.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It was a pretty common peasant weapon purely because you could make one super easy, and it fired a thing you could literally pick off the ground. Sling a rock at a wolf or a bear and it'll probably either be dead or get the hint of "ah shit that guy hurts to fight, I'll go find some other bastard."

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Uh, no, the side was smashed in.

edit: all talking about between the eyes, but i learned from that part in religion lessons that the temple is a weak point on our skull.
Difference between european and american version?