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Very weird that I am so old and have literally never heard this mentioned in a TV show or book or movie or anything.

In four out of five states, if you go to prison, you are literally paying for the time you spend there.

As you can guess, this results in crippling debt as soon as you're released.

The county gets back a fraction of what they hold over your head the rest of your life until you commit suicide(or die naturally and peacefully with the sword of damocles hanging over your head).

$20-$80 a day according to Rutgers.

Counties apparently sue people and employ wage garnishment to get back the money that majority of people obviously cannot pay back.

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/states-unfairly-burdening-incarcerated-people-pay-stay-fees

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[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I read the wiki page. Pretty barebones, but it did link to https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34705968

In theory, I could entertain an argument about having criminals repay some of the costs of dealing with them, that's not what's going on here.

The sum that is able to be collected doesn't go straight into the county coffers, either - the jail contracts with a company

The jail gets 30%, the company gets 70%.

It really just looks like just another way to exploit prisoners for profit.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The US is starting to sound made up

It’s called the American Dream because you’ve got to be asleep to believe it

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the beauty of both ruling parties being 100% in support of the prison industrial complex. In fact, our current president even helped usher through the '94 Crime Bill, which keeps prisons nice and full for his golf buddies and institutional donors.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

so then vote for trump, right? gtfooh

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I vote third party.

Choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich isn't very appealing to me.

Also, people like you pretending you didn't need the votes of people like me is how we got Trump in the first place.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

sure. hold humanity hostage because you can't get exactly what you want, traitor. i'm not going to kiss your ass to vote for practical results. if you're too blind to see what you're doing, you can live with the consequences. i have a feeling you have a lot more time left on this planet than i do, junior.

[–] i_ben_fine@lemmy.one 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! somebody criticized Biden!

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

criticize him all you want... after he's elected.

we all hate the either/or state of american politics, but it's still the reality. live in reality, ppl.

[–] i_ben_fine@lemmy.one 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

what don't you understand about my statement?

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You consent to all these issues with your vote for Dems. I on the other hand will express democracy by voting for a candidate that opposes this: Jill Stein.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you mean to tell me you're going to vote for jill stein in november? what state do you live in? it better not be a battle ground state

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, because she is the candidate of the largest party I agree with.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

do you understand how american elections work? are you in a battleground state?

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is how elections work, I'm the one acting democratically here

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DO. YOU. LIVE. IN. A BATTLEGROUND STATE?

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Irrelevant. Stein is closest to what I support, so I vote for her.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i'm not going to argue with you. i can see from your comment history that you're a lost cause. you are damning people to consequences they don't deserve, which makes you no different from conservatives. you are effectively the enemy and deserve to be treated the same.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

you are damning people to consequences they don’t deserve

This is you telling poor people to vote for wealthy Dems

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this is me telling you to pull your head out of your ass and think about consequences. stop replying to me. i have nothing more to say to you, traitor.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this is me telling you to pull your head out of your ass and think about consequences

You can't even accept you consent to bombing children in Gaza with your Biden vote.

stop replying to me. i have nothing more to say to you, traitor.

You lost the argument, and now are trying to find a way out lmao.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can’t even accept you consent to bombing children in Gaza with your Biden vote.

nah. my vote doesn't mean that. what a very dumb thing to say, traitor.

You lost the argument, and now are trying to find a way out lmao.

lol. you're fucking delusional, traitor.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nah. my vote doesn’t mean that. what a very dumb thing to say, traitor.

It literally does whether you want to accept it or not. We provide money and weapons to bomb children, you vote in support of the president doing this.

lol. you’re fucking delusional, traitor.

The only traitor here is you voting for corporate fascism, willfully voting in support of the rich.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

nope. fuck off.