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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even worse is that a disturbing proportion of young men are ACTIVELY supporting the Trump/Vance regression ticket.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably because regression for men means more power. Going back in time for women doesn't help in the same way.

[–] spidertrolled@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The illusion of power is not the same as actually having it. I wish more men understood this. There is no republican policy that actually empowers working class men to do better in their lives. The sports of dunking on liberals is a distraction from the fact that republicans have no plan to help their constituents.

Also, like whiny crybabies like the former president are not masculine and definitely not role models for such. If he was, then republican men would find dates a lot easier. This faked version of masculinity is not fooling women, who see the whiny, fragile intolerance for what it is: a cowardly fear of everyone different than themselves. Incels under republican rule will still never get dates, and they never have in whatever rose glasses version of the past theyre idealizing. Hateful cowards simply aren't attractive. The "return" to power isn't there. Its a lie.

edit: my bad i thought i was in c/politics

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

100%. Those guys in the mines in the 1800's robber baron factories weren't really enjoying the fruits of the patriarchy. If anything, it prevented possible allies through worker solidarity against the people really causing their problems, similar to racism.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Also problematic (and confusing) is the number of women supporting Trump.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uhhh maybe, just maybe it’s because society hasn’t really been progressing quality of life for men when they have “progressed”?

College enrolment rates for men are less than 50% and dropping, imo things like that disenfranchises men.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interestingly this seems to be a uniquely American phenomenon. In the recent UK general election there wasnt much of a gap between young men and women with a majority of both voting for the centre/centre-left (56% and 58% respectively), though there was a bit more of a diference outside that with the split between greens/far right being 12%:12% for young men and 23%:6% for young women.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well the centre left isn't centre left. They went right of the conservatives on immigration, focussing on stopping migrant boats etc. They vowed not to raise taxes to fund services. They didn't market themselves as centre-left. It was the right wing that took over the labour party. Historically you would find differences electorally prior to this one.

If you look at men to women voting Reform, it's 17% to 12%. There are disparities, they are just less obvious.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you go back to the 80s in the UK women were significantly to the right of men, voting for the tories over labour.

I dont disagree that labour were very centrist this election, but saying that they went right of the tories is is just daft when they are putting huge amounts of money into green energy, expanding workers rights and focusing on increasing housing stock. Meanwhile at the last election the tories were still saying they were going to dump migrants in the middle of Africa.