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Transcription:By Jesse Squire @tracksuperfan · 1h

If I did my math right, those starting block speakers made a difference last night.

Without them, Lyles would have been at a disadvantage of 0.008 sec — how long the sound of the pistol takes to travel from lane 4 (Thompson) to lane 7 (Lylesh).

He won by 0.005.

[A picture showing starting blocks on the track with runners' feet in them. Behind each starter block is a purple loudspeaker connected to wires leading out of frame.]

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Does this assume the speakers are in series? (If that's the right word.) Somehow I think someone's thought of that.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, electricity operates at near the speed of light, so its difference even across an entire stadium is negligible.

But if it were significant, you'd want them wired in parallel with equal wire length to each speaker, even though the closer ones don't need that much wire.

[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

You'd also want your transmitter to be physically on equal distance from the speakers. You always get a bit of current via the electromagnetic field, and it spreads throughout anything, not just wires.

Well, it also depends on whether that little current is enough to make a sound that the runner would be able to hear.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So he got the math wrong? Or rather used the wrong speed.

*Nvm I misread the original post.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They are more saying that using loudspeakers is better than a traditional starter pistol shooting a blank.

Since a starter pistol would be fired from either the inside, or outside of the track, the sound of it would take about .026 seconds (more than the .005 seconds) to reach the other side. This is estimating the air is around 20C.

With loudspeakers, as another user mentioned, you can theoretically ignore the length of wire as it would travel close to the speed of light. (~0.000000045 seconds using 99.9% Cu, if you are curious) Since the loudspeakers each are also an identical distance from their starting blocks, each of the athletes would hear the crack at the very same time.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This difference could also be minimized by firing a pistol a significant distance behind the line.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True, but you want it to be closer so the world record also remains accurate.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. To match this comically-fine timing, the pistol might have to be fired in Belgium.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

which ideal because then it might hit a belgian too

[–] johny 9 points 1 month ago

With such small differences in speed anything could have influenced the outcome. A butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon could have influenced the wind patterns in such a way that advantages one over the other. The fairest thing to say would be that they both did a great job, but I guess that doesn’t fly at the olympics.