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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 150 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lmao.

I'm sorry to laugh, but it's just the absurdity of it all.

The downward spiral of Boeing is insane.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I got hired 2 days before all this shit! Had a pretty alright gig as a regional analyst before accepting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At this point I'm expecting the big Boeing building down the street by NASA to collapse in on itself and the doors to be found 3 towns over.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It would be quite something if the Everett assembly building collapsed like a circus tent.

Largest building by volume in the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Everett_Factory

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[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

The irony of not being able to spiral downward, when spiraling downward.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 102 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why is NASA, a publicly funded science organization, fixing the mistakes of a for profit corporation?

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 108 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because for goddamn reason we socialize the losses and privatize the profits

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago

Those reasons being monopolies and greed and corruption and capitalism.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

Read the article.

Boeing might opt to cancel Starliner and leave NASA with just a single provider of crew transportation. That would be painful for both NASA and Boeing.

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[–] lemmeout@lemm.ee 61 points 3 months ago (12 children)

But don't worry though, NASA says the astronauts are "not stranded".

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Totally not stranded! The capsule that will bring them back just goes to another school.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You wouldn’t know that capsule. It’s . . . It’s Canadian.

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I am seriously upset. NASA press office seems to be telling lies left and right, and they think they're just pulling the old Washington spin cycle, but it's obvious lies. And they're easy out of line.

They issued a 248k "emergency" engineering study contract to SpaceX to support extra pax on the dragon. NASA press office claimed this award had absolutely nothing to do with Crew Test, but this was immediately contradicted by anonymous internal sources.

Heads need to roll at NASA PAO.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Yes, these headlines are continuing to say the astronauts are stranded, which really isn't the case. This vehicle is working well enough to return them at any time.

The thing is, there is something weird going on with some of the thrusters (of which there are many for redundancy) and this is their only chance to investigate the issue. If they were to return with the astronauts now, it would mean leaving the thrust module to burn up in the atmosphere, and then we wouldn't be able to test the problematic parts. We could still do that (leave now), but we'd miss out on this opportunity to test hardware and understand better why some thrusters failed.

On the other hand, this is still a huge waste of money and it's one more example of Boeing bungling things. So I'm not saying this is a great situation, just that the astronauts are not actually "stranded".

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[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Boeing doesn’t listen to their engineers, but we’re supposed to listen to their marketing department.

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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 58 points 3 months ago

Two "not stranded" astronauts becoming increasingly stranded. More at 6

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Holy shit. I got banned from reddit for saying the Boeing starliner astronauts should fear for their lives cuz Boeing. It was a joke, did not want it to become true! Hopefully they come home safe!

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Wow that's actually crazy that they banned you for that lmao they couldn't make it any more obvious they got bought off by private companies, yikes. I'm glad Lemmy isn't prone to that, inherently by design.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

It was a joke, did not want it to become true!

Reddit is, in fact, a joke.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When it had issues immediately post-launch, there were a LOT of Boeing-defenders: “oh no, keeping it there is a precaution, there’s nothing seriously wrong with it. They’re definitely not stuck on the station…”

Yeah. When this fucking death trap was launched WHILE HAVING ISSUES, I knew it wasn’t going to be a quick round trip. Frankly, I’d be amazed if those astronauts up there would be willing to take the return trip on it. NASA has a poor track record in that regard.

I absolutely love spaceflight and whole heartedly support programs. But Boeing needs to not be making spacecraft that humans fly on.

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[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A top option should also be removing the current Boeing board and C suite. What a debacle.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

Your wish is granted.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/31/investing/boeings-losses-new-ceo/index.html

As announced earlier key board members are also resigning.

Have they rotated the deck chairs on the Titanic, or is this a meaningful change?

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

Y’know one of those “options” was not to send it after the leaks were discovered.

Then they were all like, “Pffft. It’s fiiine. Just go.”

Then they were up there all, “Okay, so, slight delay”

Then, “Okay well that’s borked, but don’t worry, it’s all being handled.”

Now it’s “Options, anyone? Yes, all of them.”

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait what, they are still up there ?

Wasn't it supposed to be postponed for just a few days so they can analyze the leaks and 'please move along nothing to see here'.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago

I had the same reaction a couple days ago when I saw they were still there. Definitely not a good look for Boeing.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Boeing is going to kill our astronauts. Enough of this.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The astronauts took off in that machine after the Boeing airplane fiascoes went mainstream. What was going through their heads? Why did they think this time would be OK when it's that much riskier than ordinary plane flights?

I would love to hear their interviews after they return safely, somehow, in the future.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to defend Boeing in any way, but is it a bit reductive to say their commercial plane parts have quality problems, therefore their NASA stuff will too?

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Their space capsule and rocket tests had issues too

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Not only that, but they kept finding leaks on the rocket leading up to launch

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They are considering sending a 737 max

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

It will certainly descend fast enough to get them home for dinner

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

It seems to me like we should be at the point where there should just always be a backup plan so the people taking the real risks don't have to sit around waiting for 8+ weeks as some people try to do best by them while others just try to cover their assess and pretend everything is ok because they are fucked if things aren't ok and might be inclined to risk lives in the hopes they get the good outcome.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm just glad they have a ready-to-deploy backup plan. SpaceX is nailing it. I just hope that the future will remember the terrific work that Gwynne Shotwell and many others did while "someone else" where busy tossing money away.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (15 children)
[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well, this was actually fkning concerning. Ofk is not like other Company aren't playing to launch thousand of satellites too. There should be a serious regulation and some heavy changes in the metal alloy used at very least. I'm sure that Trump already has a plan about it...

... ofk i'm fking kidding. Vote [everyone else] x president .

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (12 children)

So we're starting to look at aluminum debris in the upper atmosphere, when are we going to look at carbon fibre debris? Or rocket fuel in the upper atmosphere? We dont know what any of that shit does. Im going to hazard a guess that it does nothing good.

If you were to light ten thousand Starlink satellites on fire in a bonfire on the ground people would put you in jail. When it happens in the upper atmosphere its called progress.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

boeing should have all contracts cancelled and be broken up. every gov't. official that OK'd the starliner and this mission should be fired and investigated.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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