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[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its nice having terrible social skills sometimes to the point where I make people drop the mask quicker.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It also helps that nutomic and Dessalines are both certifiable.

It's kind of a shame. I really like the platform and the concepts inherent to federated social media, but it really sucks that the maintainers of the codebase are hostile to any ideology but their own.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He strikes me as the kind of person who uses words like “bourgeoisie” to sound smart and thoughtful… but uses them while regurgitating talking points from fox “news”.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Marxism-Leninism is fundamentally a right-wing ideology. It’s a right-wing ideology that is very much at odds with the dominant right-wing ideology in the West, but if you blur your eyes and take a step back, you’ll see the same thinking at play. Once you realize this, the whole situation starts to make a lot more sense.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

Tankies like him basically regurgitate fox news talking points other than anything relating to china lol. Like literally itd be difficult to tell them apart if china wasnt mentioned

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The very left lefties who explain to us that the best tactics to achieve leftism are coincidentally doing exactly what the rightmost political group wants.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

I can understand being frustrated with democracy. It has many strengths, but efficiency isn’t one of them.

When you see an injustice, you want it fixed NOW. Authoritarianism looks kinda good then, but ultimately it causes more problems than it solves.

“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

What insisting there's only one problem does to a motherfucker.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just want to point out this unban you got:

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Yup, I appreciate the good people out there!

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (11 children)

What the fuck is that guy on about???

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

#JustTankieThings

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

Dude straight up banned you for the fact that actions have consequences. Frankly I'd wear getting banned by him as a badge of honor. Sure, what you're experiencing is also considered consequences, but I think it was worth it. You have my support, new friend

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How are you going to get your first developer funded in donations when you say stuff like that?

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, this just prevented me, a trans woman, from ever donating to the main Lemmy project. I'm severely disappointed. I'll donate only to good instances with leadership I know aren't phobic.

This literally ignores the experiences of trans people, all of whom lost something in order to transition, and many everything. The system is being weaponized against us at every level. What an ignorant thing to say.

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[–] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This guy also insisted on keeping the nazi instance explodingheads listed under 'recommended instances' on joinlemmy.org.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weird fucking thing for a leftist to do, isn't it? Dessalines and Nutomic both claimed it was because they were free speech absolutists. Meanwhile saying China is performing a genocide against the Uigher people is a gaurunteed instaban with the explanation "orientalism"

[–] millie@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's because they're not leftists. Most of the tankies on Lemmy probably aren't. I'm sure some of them are people who get swept up in the tide of favoring mockery over patience and compassion while actually believing leftist political positions, but it's pretty clear what the bulk of them are doing.

They're corporate or authoritarian government plants trying to break the coalition of left and center. They're doing everything they can to make both look unreasonable and unhinged in the eyes of the other. Demotivating leftists from endorsing centrists who lean their way, while making centrists feel targeted and derided by the left.

It's way easier to break coalitions and sew chaos than it is to drive engagement and unity. It literally takes less thinking, less precision, and less strategy.

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[–] starman@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (15 children)
[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lost me at 'Why do they need to be "rooted out"?'.

Welp, they're a piece of shit.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah kind of buried the lede, you don't need to unpack political ideologies to understand the hatred in the first response.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

His argumentation is dumb.

But even more so, IF the bourgeoisie were promoting pro-trans stuff. It would NOT be suprising that the bourgeoisie would ALSO be promoting anti-trans stuff. It fans the flame of this “culture war”which according to communist theory, would distract people from realising the “true divide” in society is class, and workers to unite.

TLDR: He’s clearly a conservative of some sort because his logic is incompatible with communist theory.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is in fact what Russian bot factories are actually doing. And not just around trans activism, but around everything they can use to increase hatred and decrease social cohesion in the west. Here's one source that talks about this problem: https://www.amazon.com/Putins-Trolls-Frontlines-Russias-Information/dp/1632461293

They're doing it pretty well. As a practical example, a lot of the discussion revolving around this topic is powerfully pushing me towards distrusting trans activists, and somewhat towards distrusting trans people in general. There's something deeply irritating about the fundamentalism of it all -- it reminds me of the kind of religiosity that we had to fight against a lot in the 1900s and of course earlier.

I need to remind myself constantly in these threads that trans rights are human rights and that it's the discussion that's fucked, not the people.

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

hm can you link to an example of posts that fits the description "pushing you to distrust trans activists"?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Those threads are generally embarrasing already when they're happening, but especially in hindsight -- nevertheless here's one recent one I greatly enjoyed having https://sopuli.xyz/post/15328469/10919769

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah that thread is pretty embarrassing. If you like, here's a post on the subject of definitions and category boundaries from a rationalist perspective. It's arguing p much same thing as @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world was talking about, but imo in a more compelling way https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/

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[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Puts transphobes in quotation marks, bans everything he considers “sinophobia” even if you just mention literal policy in china. why are tankies so weird about so much stuff

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