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    [–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There is a way to get genuine help from a Linux forum.

    Say "Fuck this, I'm going back to Windows".

    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Don't do anything rash, give me a minute I'm wrapping the command with Tkinter

    [–] tehcpengsiudai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Two ways, the other is by saying "solved" with a half baked solution that's incorrect.

    [–] Clbull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    #yearofthelinuxdesktop

    [–] drew_belloc@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Why do you need a gui for a timer? Just use sleep number && mpv someMusic.mp3

    [–] warmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Why do people even use a Desktop Environment, so many GUIs !!!

    [–] maeries@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    DEs are bloat anyway

    [–] Clipper152@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think the only reason Windows users are afraid of terminals is that they're not used to them. They're not that bad. Most terminal programs have a -(-)help command that shows you what you can do as well, in case you get stuck.

    [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Let me tell you a story of checking a signature and unzipping an exercise file for uni every week on my linux distro that was named 01_ML-exercise_Bayesian-sep.zip.gpg followed by 02-Ml-exercise-FisherLinearDiscriminant.zip.gpg

    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I do think there is another reason, which is that the Windows CMD is awful. If that's your only reference, I understand not wanting to learn it.

    [–] Morphit@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Powershell is pretty interesting but I haven't learnt much of it and it's hard to discover commands, arguments and fields within results. All the commands have really similar generic names and cryptic mnemonics. And an annoying amount of them are text based and don't actually interoperate with the ecosystem.

    I'm more used to slinging around text with bash and the basic Linux utilities so I'm not inclined to learn more than I have to on the Windows side.

    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    I wrote a couple hundred lines of it as part of my apprenticeship a few years ago and have occasionally needed to deal with small scripts since then.

    In principle, I like the idea of static typing, as I'm a backend dev, but yeah, I don't particularly want a script to ever become large enough where static typing truly becomes useful.
    I would strongly recommend using a full-fledged programming language instead. In particular, because Microsoft somehow managed to make Powershell feel even more verbose than even C#, which is one of the most unnecessarily verbose languages out there.

    Back then, it also felt quite like a web technology, where many features were only available, if you had the right version combination of Windows, Powershell and .NET installed.

    And of course, the biggest strength of Bash is unattainable, which is that there's multiple decades of people posting snippets and example commands online.

    Having said all that, maybe for Ops folks, who *have* to script a Windows configuration and aren't proficient in any proper programming languages, it is genuinely quite useful.

    [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If there is a well written manual or a wiki im fine with using terminal programs.

    [–] odium@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But ofc, there's always no documentation available other than a man page.

    [–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    There is also that obscure forum post from 2012 that refers to a post from 2004, from someone who gives some cryptic advise with commands not even in the manual that are outdated from 5 major releases ago but somehow still work. Except for one command tgat you then google and find a forum post from 2016 that it has been renamed, but the functionality stayed the same.

    Anyways you put it all together and your problem somehow got solved, but you seemed to have created a black magic incantation because now a three headed demon has appeared and eaten your neighbour alive.

    [–] Graphine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I swear it feels like for a lot of the things I do on Linux there's a GUI app for it, but then if I wanna do something as basic as adjust my fan speed I gotta use the freaking terminal.

    Like it's always at the worst possible time.

    Edit: I’ve installed a distro on my gaming PC that I really liked, used it on my laptop. Sensors and fans were fully supported. Did not work at all on my PC so I told it to fuck off. It’s just too much of a pain to set up.

    [–] zelifcam@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

    I prefer using my scripts, but I understand everyone isn’t insane.

    https://flathub.org/apps/org.coolero.Coolero

    [–] Hextic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Agreed but it is easy to copy paste terminal commands.

    [–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Not so convincing if you're just a causal user that has to trust random strangers with a unknown command that could just bork your whole OS.