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List of icons/services suggested:

  • Calibre
  • Jitsi
  • Kiwix
  • Monero (Node)
  • Nextcloud
  • Pihole
  • Ollama (Should at least be able to run tiny-llama 1.1B)
  • Open Media Vault
  • Syncthing
  • VLC Media Player Media Server
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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 125 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Y'all laugh but I'm getting into Linux and dusted off an old i7 laptop with 16gb of RAM. Slapped a $40 512GB ssd and linux mint on it to get into !selfhost@lemmy.ml!

...then promptly forgot about the laptop

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 105 points 1 month ago (11 children)

i7

16gb ram

old

One of these is not like the other.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Intel has been on the i3, i5, i7 naming scheme for a while though. I think the oldest ones are probably ~15 years old at this point.

[–] Laser 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

i7 just marked their top of the line consumer products until they introduced the i9 in 2017. First models were introduced 2008, but I think the mobile versions came in 2010.

So yeah 15 years is pretty close.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

13 years old i7-2600 still going strong here.

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[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah I had the i7 7700k which was like 7 years ago, and with like 64GB of ram because I wanted to play with large ramdisks.

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[–] lauha@lemmy.one 46 points 1 month ago

I figure his username is his birth year

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could be as old as 15 years... If someone bought a species out i7 laptop in 2009 they may have upgraded it to 16gb at some point. Seems realistic enough

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Please stop. I'm only in my 30s but you're making me feel like I'm 80. To me, old is a 386 with 4MB of RAM, a 40MB hard drive, Windows 3.1, and a turbo button. Audio was limited to a single channel square wave courtesy of the PC speaker, cause sound cards were expensive.

Or if you want to really talk old in the personal computing realm, then we'll have to start bring up companies like Commodore, Atari, and Radio Shack. But their computers were before my time.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well personal computing just moved faster back then. Today, a decent computer from 10 years ago (2014) is perfectly usable for most people (with an SSD especially). But in 2010 if you had a top of the line computer that was from 2000 it was basically garbage. If you had a computer from 1990 in the year 2000 it was practically ancient history.

The PC market just has plateaud for everyday use. We just see incremental performance improvements for enthusiasts/professionals and little more than power draw improvements for everyone else.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Old laptop" has a Core 2 Duo and 4GB of DDR2 RAM.

It also has a better keyboard with plenty of travel, on-the-go replaceable battery, easily accessible components likely to get replaced/upgraded/cleaned, large cooler, large selection of I/O, has higher likelihood to survive 2 more years than a brand new laptop and it can be used as a weapon or anchor.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's like 20 years old... An i7 is more accurate to the comic about a 10-year old laptop.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An i7 laptop can be up to 15 years old. And memory is irrelevant as it could've been updated at any time in-between.

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[–] Liz@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My current laptop is an i7 with 16 GB of RAM. Hardware requirements have plateaued pretty hard unless your trying to run something that requires the latest GPU.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

i7 doesn't tell you anything without the full model number, at least the gen is super important

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

shit that's better than my main laptop

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago

Heres the template if anyone wants it

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Know what? Fine. I'll try Linux again. Tired of watching my craptop sit at 100% disk usage for 10 minutes before it starts responding. Mint is good to start with, ye?

If your craptop is using an HDD instead of an SSD, replacing it with an SSD would be a cheap upgrade you could do that would make a massive improvement.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Linux Mint cinnamon is gold standard for quality IMO. All my modern systems that can comfortably run it do.

That said it also uses more resources than your old craptop may like depending on just how old we are talking about.

If cinammon is a little slow, try mint xfce. Its a lot lighter on system resources. Last time i tried xfce it was a great performance compromise if a little unpolished in places.

If Mint xfce is also too slow you can give MX Linux a whirl. Its way faster and more minimal that mint out of the box. Yet it feels modern and allows you to install all the same programs as mint from the default software repo including flatpaks. MX fluxbox is probably as minimal as you would want to get. Try their flagship xfce first.

If you are trying to beat new life into a 25 year old dying dinosaur Puppy Linux will do it, but you won't enjoy using it.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I prefer lmde but yes.

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For a server for hosting services like in this meme? I always go Debian. Incredibly stable.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's mainly for movies and occasionally gaming on the go, and also my DDR machine. It's got a 1050 so it's... Not great, but it's had hard drive struggles most of its life and I've tried everything up to reinstalling windows.

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Do you think your equipment is worth an upgrade? You could move frome a HDD to a ssd and have a major improvement.

Also, make sure the games you play can run on Linux.

[–] JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might want to upgrade to an ssd

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Middle right panel is a cock and balls. (OP is into needle play.)

[–] PastryPaul@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's one of those prehensile dolphin dicks.

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gross. I prefer my cocks posthensile.

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[–] Finadil@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ollama on a ten year old laptop? Lol, maybe at 1T/s for an 8B.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

tinyllama 1.1b would probably run reasonably fast. Dumb as a rock for sure. But hey its a start! My 2015 t460 thinkpad laptop with an i7 6600U 2.6GhZ duo core was able to do llama 3.1 8B at 1.2T-1.7T/s which while definitely slow at about a word per second. Still, was also just fast enough to have fun in real time with conversation.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Than what are the minimal specs to run ollama (llama3 8b or preferably 27b) at a decent speed?

I have an old pc that now runs my plex and arr suite. Was thinking of upgrading it a bit and running ollama on it as well. It doesn't have a gpu, so what else does it need? I don't have a big budget, so no new nvidia card for me.

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[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

What is the list of software?

I see:

  • Calibre

  • Pihole

  • FreeNAS (?) - Now TrueNAS

  • Nextcloud

  • Jitsi

  • Monero - I'm guessing just a node, rather than mining.

  • Ollama

  • VLC Media Player

  • Syncthing

Edit: Kiwix

[–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 6 points 1 month ago
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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Haven't shot up on FOSS in over a week and the withdrawals are getting bad

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The worms are back again. Gotta dig out out Microsoft's parasites with a screw driver.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

For me, the worst part of setting up some new distro or service is when it's done and everything works. Then it just... Sits there. Working. Usually at some task I don't need very often. Very anticlimactic and boring. Then I have to find some other new thing to try, which is why my HTPC has been through like 4 distros in the past year.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] max_adam@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It streams video through your LAN network so its equivalent client can play it. The name VLC comes from Video Lan Client which was the app's original purpose.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

TIL full form of "VLC" Cool and Thanks

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I love this lol. I see you added some buds and joints for the computer to smoke, very kind of you.

Edit: or maybe that was added with a previous edit to the comic?? Now I'm not sure.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought those were lines.

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[–] r@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love this new twist on this template

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks randint glad you liked it!

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

team Syncthing

[–] hasecilu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I installed Debian 12 on my 14yo Pentium E5400 PC with 4GB RAM. I have installed on it: Pi-Hole, Jellyfin, Deluge, Grocy, Heimdall, HortusFox, Inventree, Portainer, Radicale, Speedtest Tracker, Trilium, WatchYourLan. Also have various samba shares. In the last year I have learnt a lot of server/Docker stuff, my server is not connected to Internet though. It's been fun. I have had luck watching some HD videos through Jellyfin but others totally spike processor load avg. to 20 when normal values is 0.2, lol.

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[–] Barzaria@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I just put GNU/Linux on a Celeron II 4 core single threaded CPU. It's running along fine. I didn't even have a use case, but just felt bad to let the old technology go to waste. This was within the last two weeks.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Literally waiting on a friend to give me their laptop for this purpose lol

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My orange pi zero 3 hosting nextdns via docker:

(It's like nothing is happening at all -- under 1W power draw go brrr)

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[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My 3rd gen i3 laptop has: dead battery, broken screen(about 1/3 of the screen is dead), loose USB ports that work when they feel like it and a decrepit HDD that was slow even when it was new. I have it for emergencies, but I don't think it's worth rebuilding it.

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