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Has replaceable battery, ARM64 architecture, sim card slot, USB OTG support, sd card slot, uab type c and no front camera. Ships to europe. Also, I don't want most of the budget to go for the camera.

minimum: • decent charging and internet send/recieve speed • multi-touch • android 8 or 9 • no annoying bloatware and restrictions (unless can be disabled with ADB) • 2gb ram (1gb free average or less) • 16gb storage (max 8gb system usage) • 60hz refresh rate • 16:9 aspect ratio • screen that can be dimmed to very very dark • can emulate nds games at 50-60fps • very long battery life (8 hours wih airplane mode off) • Runs well 8 years

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[–] Rexelpitlum@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me sir, are you living in the past?

[–] monkey011@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't store that much data on my phone. I rathee play games on a pc. Less risk for me

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 GB RAM will seriously hamper usability with modern (admittedly often bloated) apps, many of which may not even run on Android 8 or 9. No system will leave 1 GB free on average. Why should it? What good is RAM if it isn't used?

[–] Kshysio@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually I use a phone that has 2 GB of ram and it runs just fine. Event some lite gaming isn't a problem. The only thing you will miss though will be multi tasking because it's basically non existent.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You are right, 2 GB is enough for almost all apps, but it makes switching between multiple apps painful, because it always has to reload the other app(s) when they had been removed from main memory, which happens frequently. I found 3 GB these days to be the minimum for comfortable work (with 2 GB being "just fine", as you said), which is what my tablet has, and I'm glad my phone has 6, which makes it a lot snappier, since I regularly and quickly switch between 5 or 6 different apps. Although most of these are not particular memory hogs (except fennec/firefox), having literally "more than just enough" RAM makes it a lot quicker.

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Such low specs should be easily available on the used market well under $100. As to "no bloatware", see if you can find one supported by lineageOS or another alternative system.

I don't think anyone will make any predictions about the next 8 years. Replaceable battery was fairly common at the time they made phones with the specs you are looking for.

A bigger problem will be "no front camera" (almost unheard of), and USB C on a phone with Android 8 or 9, only 2 GB RAM and 16 GB storage. Most of these will be so old that they come with Micro-USB.